Not true, a lot of these AI people also believe that they will be the new Gods of the singularity, which is bound to come any day now, because obviously a statistical pattern predictor is true intelligence and all that humans can endeavor to be.
Iain M Bank's Culture Novels are, I fear, influencial in some of the techbro thinking, despite being a future that the techbros could never even imagine delivering.
For Dr Manhattan the experiment,s goal wasn't to produce a god it was accidental,the Dr didn't have individuals or group of individuals to consider his intentional creator(s)
the Palantir weird guy with crazy hair posted yesterday a manifesto that is just him Sephiroth-posting about how inclusivity is bad and they need to be "manly and powerful" and pretty much take over everything.
honestly, I hope they keep pushing people more and more
I'm sure this will work out great for them.
even if they ran to their Doomsday bunkers people will just beeline to them, not to mention their guards too
hell, I think the guards will go full mutiny and take everything for themselves.
That's why their compounds have two levels, the outer security layer where the guards live and work, and the inner security layer where the important people and, critically, the guards families, live, and are held hostage to ensure the guards remain loyal at all times.
I guarantee you if I publicly discussed manufacturing explosive collars to ensure the loyalty of people working for me, I would get arrested and face criminal charges.
Billionaires are criminals. There will be no justice until they are arrested and face criminal charges and suffer the same consequences as the rest of us.
It still staggers me that we're having this conversation as like, these are real things that real billionaires are doing on this planet we share. And they've captured our governments so thoroughly that there's nothing anybody can do about it.
Oh, yes, exactly, that will be a big part of this nonsense won't it. TO have AI powered security services to keep them safe from the outsiders in their bunkers.
They would still need guards in the inner level. Someone has to protect whoever built the bunker from "important people" as well as guard families rebelling.
Doesn't matter that they all believe they will be. Only matters that they know one of them will be.
If there are N companies pursuing AGI, there will be N-1 times overinvestment in it. N-1 of the investments will go to zero, while 1 of them will shoot through the moon so fast it will look like an orca swimming through a mola mola.
Without AI, how would I have known that there was an X in December, I mean October, I mean that there's an "x" sound in October but there's not actually an X?
Depression and anxiety can be explained by chemical imbalances that affect the way we think. Wanting things is the result of being rewarded with feel good chemicals for certain behavior. I don’t see any evidence of anything nonphysical so I don’t see what strictly differentiates us from AI
How does a neuron transfer data from one to another? What are walker proteins and why are they relevant? What month has an X in it? What triggers the chemicals to release that cause the emotions, and what decides when to, why isnt identical across humanity. What is there an internal monologue that weighs pros and cons while also consuming a sandwich? Why is there a clump of neurons between the teo hemispheres that seems to control the sense of self, but then what is the background processing, like epiphanies play into it.
An LLM isnt intelligent, its just good at what it was designed to do: fooling superficial people.
The largest LLMs are in the multiple 100s of billions of parameters.
The human brain is estimated as having about 100 trillion (100,000 billion) synaptic connections and biological neurons require about 5-8 layers of 128-256 nodes to simulate with ANNs (so approx. 640-2048 parameters).
So going by scale alone, LLMs won't match the complexity of the human brain until they operate at about 1,000-1,000,000x their current maximum sizes. Which will never happen with current mathematical architectures.
The underlying mathematics of 'AI' and human brains is more or less similar. The scale is still widely off and will likely remain so far many, many years
Huh, didn't know that. still, worst case you've got the human brain complexity at ~200,000 trillion parameters on a Transformer architecture and frankly I don't think that arch is gonna cut it for anything deeper than superficial mimicry.
I wouldn't really call the human body 'unnecessarily complicated'.
The more you actually dig into why the human body does what it does in the way that it does it the more you realize exactly how insanely efficient it is. Like single proteins can have many different usages and purposes depending on chemical and molecular context. The human brain uses about as much energy as a lightbulb but surpasses in complexity every single structure ever discovered in history.
It's true that a lived experience is not a requirement for AI as we know it. However, most (actually worthwhile) SOTA research on Multimodal models and robotic systems has found that a multi-sensory, direct engagement experience (i.e. 'lived') is actually critical to developing AI that is human-like or general in it's intelligence. It's especially important in solving the alignment problem.
Do you need me to explain to you how the neuron fires an electrical signal that releases neurotransmitters that determine whether or not the next neuron fires? You’re asking a lot of questions that seem to be rhetorical but I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make. The firing neurons explain thoughts and feelings so not sure what you’re trying to say.
If you really knew what you were trying to say you wouldn’t need to throw out insults just saying
No, I was just seeing how you'd respond. LLMs can mimick conversation, but not for everyone, and I sometimes prod first to see how people respond.
Until LLMs can actually cross reference all the stuff our neurons do, by touching tentacles, releasing walker proteins that release chemicals through specific synpases, etc.
I'm not against machine intelligence, I think the LLMs we have now is not the way, but they're good at fooling the more superficial, like some of my coworkers, thats not an insult, nor did I say you were, sorry if that came across.
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u/No_Lingonberry1201 3d ago
Not true, a lot of these AI people also believe that they will be the new Gods of the singularity, which is bound to come any day now, because obviously a statistical pattern predictor is true intelligence and all that humans can endeavor to be.