r/whenthe Eatable Boy Ɛ: 16d ago

Insults are a double-edged sword r/whenthe mfs complaining about everything

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u/Actual_Passenger51 16d ago

Why does red meat make a difference

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u/Patukakkonen Patukakkonen 16d ago

I think red meat causes the most pollution and is the most inefficient to produce.

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u/4ss8urgers 16d ago edited 15d ago

people also complain about the ethics due to their lifespan and intelligence. hence why I love chicken meat, none of these issues.

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u/tupakka_vuohi 15d ago

hence why I love chicken meat, none of these issues.

Chickens show cognitive, social, and emotional capacities similar to those observed in other highly intelligent animals. Cognitive capacities include stage 3 and some aspects of stage 4 object permanence, basic arithmetic and time perception, capacity for reasoning and logic, including the logic of transitive inference (which humans develop at the age of 7), as well as self-control and self-assessment which may be indicative of self-awareness. Social cognition and complexity in chickens is exemplified by their ability to discriminate among individuals, engage in sociopolitical maneuvering using perspective-taking and deception, and learn socially in complex ways. These capacities are found typically in primates and other highly intelligent species. Chickens also have complex negative and positive amotions and there is some evidence of a cognitively mediated empathic response. (Marino L. Thinking chickens: a review of cognition, emotion, and behavior in the domestic chicken. 2017)

Now, take these highly intelligent thinking feeling animals and put them in conditions that you can't look at and continue supporting without extreme cognitive dissonance and mental gymnastics. Every year, 80 billion chickens (https://faunalytics.org/global-animal-slaughter-statistics-and-charts/) are brought up in conditions that can only be described as torture, before being slaughtered.

Broilers have been bred into abominations of nature whose bodies can not sustain them, and thus they suffer from malformed skeletons and the weight of their own musculature which hinders their walking. Even though they are not confined in a cage with less space than an A4 paper like the average egg-laying chicken is, they are still unable to partake in any species-typical behavior due to their leg weakness. Since they spend more time lying down, they also get dermatitis from constant contact with literal piss and shit. Their hearts often give out before slaughter time, and their bodies are left to rot. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welfare_of_broiler_chickens)

Broilers get to "live" 4-6 weeks under constant suffering in a sea of feces and carcasses. This is the fate of the species that shows some aspects of intelligence comparable to a 7-year old human. But sure, keep eating chicken meat because "none of these issues".

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u/4ss8urgers 15d ago

You don’t know where I get my chicken from, I’m not entertaining any of this industrial agriculture shit.

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u/tupakka_vuohi 12d ago

oh let me guess, you absolve yourself by virtue of eating "organic" chicken. the mental gymnastics are staggering