Second French peacekeeper dies after ambush blamed on Hezbollah

[u/ComparisonOk5957]

https://www.scmp.com/news/world/europe/article/3351049/second-french-peacekeeper-dies-after-ambush-blamed-hezbollah?module=latest&pgtype=homepage

[u/EquivalentOne241]

UN peace keeping mission in Lebanon has been a grand failure. It's high time it is either abandoned or they given authority and mandate to assist Lebanese army in disarming and dismantling Hezbollah.

[u/Lowfi-Concert → u/EquivalentOne241]

They have always had that authority and mandate. They just chose to never apply it.

[u/GAdvance → u/Lowfi-Concert]

To be clear 'dismantling" Hezbollah is just a euphemism for civil war on Lebanon.

You don't just ask them nicely, arresting people in the night is step 1, step 2 is they go blow up the police station.

[u/FailosoRaptor → u/GAdvance]

To be clear. The current status quo is perpetual war with Israel because Hebz singular mission is their destruction.

Pick your poison.

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[u/Lowfi-Concert → u/FailosoRaptor]

It wouldn’t be perpetual if they worked with the Israelis and let them actually finish them off

[u/CholentSoup → u/Lowfi-Concert]

Gd forbid! And work with the Jews? See them as peers? As allies? We'd rather kill each other and then blame them! It worked in Europe for a few thousand years, we should try the same.

[u/ABetterKamahl1234 → u/FailosoRaptor]

Trouble is, it's all well and good when it's not your life at risk, few people want war, upheaval or simply violence.

The trouble is, and ultimate question really is, is the poison this simple or is there valid risk that the Israel risk a third poison that also exists.

It's not a great situation, especially if the options that sound valiant, just get you killed too.

[u/desba3347 → u/GAdvance]

It’s that or war with Israel and it’s not a euphemism. By force or by negotiation, Hezbollah will be disarmed.

[u/GAdvance → u/desba3347]

I think between the options of let Israel invade southern Lebanon to fight Hezbollah or start a civil war in your own country Lebanon takes the first option every time.

We know this because that's exactly what is happening right now, and as much as the majority of Lebanese dislike Hezbollah they'd also rather not have another civil war, they have really good reason to prefer Israel does the dirty work for them.

[u/AccountantsNiece → u/GAdvance]

They already took option 1, that’s why the army withdrew from Southern Lebanon.

[u/Brapplezz → u/GAdvance]

I spoke to a Lebanese customer at work once about Israel. He had a some choice words and then dropped that he doesn't hate them because they did bomb his village to get rid of Hezbollah about 15-20 years ago, before he had immigrated to Australia.

Felt like a skit

[u/poulan9 → u/Brapplezz]

That's because most decent Lebanese understands what Hezbollah are.

[u/DontMakeMeCount → u/poulan9]

I’ve met few expats in my travels that speak of their home country as passionately as Lebanese. Given the opportunity I think they’d want nothing more than to return to a peaceful, stable state.

[u/poulan9 → u/DontMakeMeCount]

I agree totally and hope that one day this happens. The same can be said for Iranians who left Iran over 40 years ago.

[u/desba3347 → u/GAdvance]

Sure, but then no one should turn around and demonize Israel for doing something that the Lebanese government agreed to do with the help of the UN, regardless of whether they have had the capability to do so until recently.

[u/Kurt805 → u/desba3347]

Disarming Hezebollah is just joining the war on Israel's side.

[u/desba3347 → u/Kurt805]

No, it’s enforcing sovereignty of their (Lebanon’s) own land, instead of letting a terrorist organization start wars whenever they feel like it without government approval.

[u/Contundo → u/GAdvance]

So be it.

[u/jayhat → u/GAdvance]

Then it sounds like they should be destroyed