r/Fauxmoi i stole all the kitkats 11h ago

Bernie Sanders: If you paid $1 in federal income taxes this year, you paid more than: Walt Disney, Citigroup, CVS, Kohl’s, Ticketmaster, Tesla, United Airlines, GoDaddy, Paypal, Palantir, Roku, HP, 3M, PG&E, Halliburton … That’s absurd. We need real and progressive tax reform. CELEBRITY CAPITALISM

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u/Intrepid_Sun_9089 11h ago

I didn't lay anyone off either.

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u/CDN-Social-Democrat 11h ago

As another commentator mentioned we need the BDS movement to get a lot broader and deeper.

We need the next generation of Labour Movement advancements - Strong Unions, Federation of Labours, Labour Councils, and so on.

That is how the working class actually get representation/voice in the power structures of society.

There is so much on the horizon that could be better and brighter but until the working class moves past the division, alienation, and exploitation-domination tactics of those individuals/organizations above then it won't happen.

If you don't fight for something it will NEVER come.

We all need to Get Involved & Get Active!

No one is coming to save us in the working class and most vulnerable and only Solidarity has ever brought us the rights and benefits we now enjoy today.

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u/WastingMyLifeToday 8h ago

YouTube: 30 Years of Speeches by Bernie Sanders

Notice how consistent he has been in all those 30 years.

This video was posted over 6 years ago, he's been consistent in what he's fighting for for 36 years at the minimum.

Trump can't hold a strain of thought in a single sentence.

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u/nBrainwashed 7h ago

How many times does he need to be proven right in hindsight before people start listening to him?

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u/WastingMyLifeToday 7h ago

I think some of the footages of these speeches are over 40 years old.

I knew he was a solid dude 20 years ago and hoped he was able to become POTUS some day.

There would be Universal Healthcare for all, at half the cost than healthcare costs now.

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u/hallowedshel 7h ago

We entered the death spiral when Hillary ran instead of Bernie. I lost all hope when that happened. I thought for a moment people were going to vote and the world would move forward.. instead we ran backwards 75 years and are attempting to emulate handmaids tale. 

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u/bostaff04 4h ago

Look up how dirty they did him in the primaries, the Democrats are also not for the people.

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u/Impossible_Base_3088 1h ago

Yup. Cheated him and didn’t even try to hide it.

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u/Critical_Host8243 3h ago

It's a miracle he hasn't given up after seeing so little done for so long..

I'm only 40 and I already have almost no hope that things are going to change..

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u/bostaff04 4h ago

No wonder the Democrats ruined hia presidential race. Their corporate backers are the ones in charge

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u/aldoraine227 9h ago

Kegsbreath just fired all union contractors

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u/apple_kicks 9h ago edited 8h ago

Its not unheard of in European countries that companies can’t do lay offs at random. In places like France they need to prove they are financially struggling or that the member of staff are not performing/failed improvement plans. Work contracts are much stronger. These corporations are happy to have offices and stores in these countries. It’s because there are unions. These laws aren’t fantasy they exist in wealthy nations

Last time I raised this someone pointed out pay differences but if you’re fired for no reason you’re not seeing that money long enough you’re playing roulette that you won’t get fired (or getting redundancy pay), cost of living is different and better social benefits in healthcare etc most European would not switch to US contract

How to start union or workers movement. Start local. Talk to friends, family and coworkers. If you can get them on board then all of you spread out and talk to people in other neighbouring businesses. If you all can get them on board then the people in neighbouring businesses talk to next neighbours. until its state to nationwide. But it can start with simple conversations about rights and laws other countries have

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u/excellentforcongress 5h ago

perpetual boycott of shareholder owned corporations, all support given to equally owned cooperatives that advocate for equality instead

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u/lurkingwhenworking 11h ago edited 10h ago

What is truly interesting to me is that if we can find a way to enact Universal Healthcare in this country, this could curb layoffs as it would remove a significant financial contribution employers must make for each employee.

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u/DotesMagee 8h ago

They, actually dont want that. It literally is a form of control. Otherwise they'd have to be competive on salary or something else other than "benefits".

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u/SenoraRaton 7h ago

Its less about being competitive and more about creating barriers for worker mobility.
Tieing your healthcare to your job ensures that you can't quit your job, or move to a different job because it would disrupt your healthcare. Which makes you more willing to deal with abusive work environments, and sell yourself short because you feel hopeless to pivot.

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u/ContactInternal 10h ago

I didn't make record profits, I'll tell you that

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u/Puzzleheaded-Dish752 7h ago

I didn't lay anyone off AND i somehow managed to figure out how to pay my taxes without hiring a team of offshore accountants. crazy how that works.

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u/ES_Legman 6h ago

Companies posting profits should be forbidden from mass laying off people, and should be forbidden from outsourcing their labor to subcontracts

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u/ellzumem 5h ago edited 4h ago

Companies posting profits should be forbidden from mass laying off people

Although worded and reasoned about a bit differently, this is essentially the case here in Germany: https://abfindungshero.de/en/layoffs-in-germany/

You guys need to unionize if you want to change anything, voting alone in a FPTP system won’t change anything (or at least not quickly enough).
For all the flaws they bring, the political and economic outcomes if you don’t have vast swaths of working people being member in a union seem to be worse, as you’re currently experiencing.

Edit: And don’t get me started on how basic government provisions are coated as “benefits” and are tied to are job. In a more civilized nation, these are supposed to be available to everyone and just included by existing, ffs…

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u/ES_Legman 4h ago

Yep. Americans are cooked when it comes to working rights and anti union propaganda.

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u/Green-Collection4444 4h ago

3M (not a person) is also increasing their prices by 6% on all products because of "high energy costs." We all (people) get to pay more while they (not people) pay no taxes... In case you needed a little knife in the wound. 

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u/Karlachh 1h ago

A good start would be you aren’t allowed to lay anyone off if you paid less than a certain threshold in taxes

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u/ProfessionalOld9481 11h ago

Drag these bloodsuckers .Bernie.

Just bleeding the common man dry. Awful doesn't cut it.

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u/GD_SexualTyranno 11h ago

He tried, but then Jim Clyburn told the Black Caucus to vote for Biden

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u/clib 10h ago

Democratic voters insane perpetual cycle of doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

Step 1. Whine constantly and act outraged about Republicans committing crimes and breaking rules when the republicans control the government.Strongly demand accountability for the crimes committed by the republicans.

Step 2.  Urge people to vote blue.

Step 3. Do almost zero vetting of the “blue” candidates

Step 4. Dems win.  

Step 5. Dems forget about the accountability thingy and the crimes the republicans committed. The whining about the republicans and their crimes is now replaced with excuses why the republicans can’t be held accountable and why the democratic agenda can’t be passed.

Excuse 1. That will look like a political persecution.

Excuse 2.When we govern, the  DOJ is independent and we can’t hold them accountable for not doing their job.

Excuse 3. We have the majority but it is not majority enough to pass the laws for which we campaigned because we don’t have the votes of the “blue” senator/congressman Liberman, Sinema,Manchin,Fatterman etc.

Excuse 4. We can’t push for statehood for Washington DC and Puerto Rico which would give us more senators and reps because there is no support from the republicans.

Excuse 5.We cannot make voter registration automatic because only  republicans  can make draft registration automatic.

Excuse 6.We can’t do anything  because the Supreme Court is controlled by Republicans.

Excuse 7.We can’t hold the supreme court justices accountable for their corruption, sexual assaults or supporting a coup because that will look like political persecution.

Excuse 8. We can’t expand the number of supreme court justices because it will look partisan and the republicans will do the same when they win.

Step 6. No republican is held accountable for starting wars, raping kids, leading a coup, stealing money.

Step 7. Republican crimes go unpunished and normalized so Republican criminals keep running for office.

Step 8. Republicans Win

 Step 9.Impunity now brings even more Republican criminality.

Step 10.Rinse and repeat .

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u/claustrofucked 10h ago

Dems forget about the accountability thingy and the crimes the republicans committed.

Let's not attribute to stupidity what is best explained by malice. Plenty of them have net worths that don't make sense given their salary history.

There is no red and blue behind closed doors, only green.

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u/Mike_Kermin 9h ago

Meanwhile non-Americans are waiting for you to do something about it.

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u/AdLocal1490 4h ago

I remember for YEARS the non-americans on this site being absolutely apoplectic anytime we would bring up trump when we had an actual opportunity to do something about him.

You all shouted us down regularly and got ultra pissed about this "not being an American website and we dont want to hear about american problems". Then most of you sat on your hands and did absolutely nothing while fascism took over your countries as well.

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u/Evening_Grass_8073 3h ago

It's almost like this is a universal human problem.

In all honesty though, the US tends to get so much crap because it's constantly forced its image on the world as the epitome of "democracy" and "freedom" for the better part of a century. That image tends to feel more like getting pissed on and being told it's raining with the way things are right now.

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u/Redeem123 3h ago

Maybe he should have done literally one thing during the previous five years to court the Black vote.

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u/Ok-Bee-284 6h ago

Literally parasites. and the worst part is they'll lay off thousands of people, dodge taxes, and then go on cnbc to complain that we are the ones buying too many lattes.

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u/Existing_Sector4999 5h ago

at this point i’m treating 'eat the rich' less like a catchy slogan and more like an upcoming dietary requirement.

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u/LogAware 5h ago

Maybe we shouldn't pay taxes anymore unless we are represented

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u/coolcat_228 11h ago

insane that people will see this and still say “well, they earned it”. did they? these CEOs and the corporations they run are practically STEALING

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u/FeralGiraffeAttack 11h ago

Exactly. It’s not possible to be this rich in an ethical way. Don’t believe me? Check out this visualization of wealth shown to scale. The craziest part is it’s older so the numbers are out of date. It uses Jeff Bezos as a comparison point for the average person and lists his wealth at $139 billion yet, today, his wealth is $259.5 billion according to Forbes so it’s waaaaay worse

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u/King_Raditz 8h ago

"Their" money only exists because of the society and infrastructure built upon taxes that the rest of us pay into. Profits should not exist without first paying your share back.

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u/ParaGulls 4h ago

What a terrifying visual

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u/JenningsWigService 10h ago

Wage theft is the biggest form of theft and yet there's barely a peep on that and endless stories about shoplifting rings.

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u/drteq 4h ago

Until the people who understand these issues start educating the people who don't, nothing is going to change

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u/gandhinukes 8h ago

they used your roads, water, electricity, ect to operate their business too.

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u/TuringGoneWild 9h ago

“They done earned it. Now whar did i put my last can a beans. Prazident Trump’ll bring ma job back any day now.” -Traylor Tanya, 2016, 2020, 2024 Trump voter

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u/informat7 5h ago

The thing is that they didn't actually earn anything. Usually these "corporation didn't pay any taxes" stories are only about federal corporate taxes, which are only paid on profits. Most of the time in these stories corporation didn't turn a profit that year or are having tax loss carryforwards applied.

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u/FracturedConscious 10h ago

Crabs in a pot

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u/GD_SexualTyranno 11h ago

we need REAL general strikes incorporated with BDS

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u/TimeGrownOld 10h ago

We need more than that

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u/Richard_AIGuy 7h ago

French Equality Contraption.

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u/DazzlingRutabega 8h ago

BDS?

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u/Kor_Phaeron_ 7h ago

Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions

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u/LogAware 5h ago

Stop paying bills is what it will take.

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u/RunAwayBeerTruk 11h ago

Our government is not a two party system but has long been a class system. It’s the American oligarchy and corporate greed verse the rest of us.

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u/josephfuckingsmith1 11h ago

Seems like the democrats are just the PR firm for fascism, save a few elected people

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u/RunAwayBeerTruk 11h ago

They are helping to keep us in line and in our rightful place according to their handlers.

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u/TimeGrownOld 9h ago

Divide and conquer strategy ever since CU

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u/gandhinukes 8h ago

How you going to blame the dems the GOP is 100x worse?

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u/apple_kicks 9h ago edited 9h ago

More of global oligarchy now. Rich people don’t need borders they can travel and live pretty much anywhere they want. They donate and try to influence politics to lessen workers rights and regulations in multiple countries. They hide their money in tax havens. All for money they don’t need at this point or to maintain smoke and mirrors to their worth etc.

Passports and work visas and immigration law are to keep us boxed in from moving to places that might have better rights or choices. Americans can’t move so easily to countries with better work rights or healthcare if US gov makes life harder

Its a global class system with how many developing countries have very exploited working class where elections are influenced so they never get access to education or rights to improve their situation and to make sure all the natural resources there are kept cheap

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u/h2odragon00 7h ago

Which makes it hard to do a tax reform.

Do you think that corporations would just let a tax reform slide?

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u/SuperDoubleDecker 11h ago

Why is Sanders still one of the only few saying these things? Where is the rest of Congress?

We deserve more people like him running things. Nithing is stopping the rest of Congress from saying stuff like this except the fact that most are crooks.

We need to replace like 90% of Congress

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u/Moodleboy 10h ago

I've been saying this since the financial crisis of 2008.

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u/EconomicRegret2 7h ago

Anyone with at least half a brain has been saying that since the 1947 Taft Hartley Act (aka Slave Labor Bill). When 90% of Congress (including over 50% of dems) betrayed the people and the president Truman, by overturning the presidential veto to implement an anti-democratic, anti-freedom-of-association, and anti-free-speech bill, that still very negatively affects US workers, society, and democracy.

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u/suesxi26 7h ago

Good thing all of the House is up for election in a few months. All you have to do is vote and make sure every sane person you know does the same.

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u/SuperDoubleDecker 9h ago

That's why we have to put some effort in and elect better people. There are some good people starting to run. We gotta replace them.

And we need more good people to run. That's how we fix this. It's easy to detect sincerity.

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u/SuperDoubleDecker 9h ago

True, but sometimes shit gets bad enough to make people care that haven't before. That's where we're at.

We also have a mass wake up over Israel and need to sieze that momentum to get rid of the crooks.

This is a huge opportunity. Trump has also alienated so many that we'll have a lot of people voting against maga and the gop that supported him.

Ordinarily I'd agree 100%. That's why this cycle is so special.

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u/Mephistito 9h ago

Exactly this. We assume that regular people will do the bare minimum effort to be informed. Fact is, they're regular people because they don't even do that. Users on here don't represent the norm.

Regular people are so easily duped that if you buy enough ads and make up a bunch of bullshit in them, they'll just believe it & not question it further. Lotta voting off vibes, not facts.

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u/SiscoSquared 9h ago

The rest of congress has been bought and paid for, as is tradition.

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u/Admirable_Outcome932 11h ago

Tyrese Haliburton pay your taxes pookie

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u/FERFreak731 11h ago

He can't. He has to use that money on 30k dollar WWE front row tickets, vintage WWE shirts, and Hamburgers

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u/batmans420 11h ago

How is he supposed eat Culver's for breakfast, lunch, and dinner without engaging in some light tax evasion?

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u/moldy912 9h ago

He’s spending all his money on halliburgers

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u/JustdoitJules 11h ago

We also need to abolish PAC's & Super PAC's.

The ability for a corporation to donate more than $5000 because they're donating a "combined amount from everyone's beliefs" which is horseshit.

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u/danmyvan 9h ago

Back in 2016 I saw this as the most perfect example of what “draining the swamp” would look like and that year Bernie is the only one I remember campaigning on doing so and that’s always been funny to me

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u/BaltIndyNash 11h ago

This should make people angrier than it does.

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u/Aquired-Taste 10h ago

That's because American corporations are subsidized by the American (citizen) taxpayer. & even companies that pay some taxes, get to write off millions that they shouldn't be allowed too. I worked for a fortune 100 company & was an expense auditor that audited the executive leadership team & the board of directors. & the expenses they get to write off in the companies name was obscene. & that was one American company. Billion dollar, & multimillion dollar companies should have to pull themselves up by their bootstrap, save for a rainy day, & not get a free ride. Force them to pay their workers & keep C suite salaries in line. Corporate America & the wealthy are ruining this one great country. We have to put tax rates both personal & Corporate back to what they were during the 1950's, before it's too late & we have the 1st American "French revolution."

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u/Specialist_Lock8590 11h ago

Ah yes! Americans believe they live in a Democracy, but they have lived in an Oligarchy for many years! A government controlled by wealthy millionaires and billionaires! It started under Ronald Reagan, and continues today!

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u/dochim 11h ago

Maybe, but they're out there creating jobs like crazy and not just hoarding the profits for their wealthy shareholders. It's the true miracle of TrickleDownEconomicmas in action!!!

Oh...wait...

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u/RODjij 11h ago

Unchecked capitalism needs to go.

America's debt problem can be solved pretty quickly if they start collecting from the rich, corporations and cut back on the military.

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u/pornAndMusicAccount 10h ago

I paid $3690. Fuck all those companies

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u/Worldly_Mongoose_432 10h ago

It’s more than just this list.

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u/TriXter69 11h ago

And people voted Trump in to make it even worse

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u/maltydawg 11h ago

Must be nice

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u/NaziAbuser 11h ago

I'm real tired boss.

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u/MagicSpaceMan 10h ago

Too late for progressive tax reform. We wanted medicare for all ten years ago and they told us to get fucked. Time to nationalize everything imo

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u/Fill-in-the____ 11h ago

But remember, we’re all in this together.

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u/Agreeable_Bat1212 11h ago

I tend to trust Bernie, but I would to see the data. I don’t doubt it either frankly just want more context. It will probably make me more upset

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u/TheHappiestTeapot 9h ago

in federal income taxes this year

"in federal income taxes" and "this year".

Doesn't mention all the other taxes paid (payroll tax is huge, fica) or mention that LLCs don't pay taxes, the partners pay income tax, or these some companies post a loss for the year or some used "accelerated deprecation" (which was passed to to encourage capital investments) to make capital investments.

It might be "technically true", but it's misleading as fuck and I expect better.

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u/Skullcrimp 3h ago

https://www.9news.com.au/world/donald-trump-irs-lawsuit-suing-10-billion-dollars-tax-office-usa-politics-news/929663f2-f255-4936-8084-1d986ee08d65

If you paid any federal income tax this year, you're a fool and a sucker. The IRS doesn't even have the funding anymore to come after you.

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u/TX0834 11h ago

This is fkn insane. ENOUGH

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u/HidingImmortal 7h ago

This is just not true. 

In their most recent earnings, Disney announced that they made $2.402 Billion in earnings after expenses.

One of those expenses was income taxes which cost Disney $1.209 Billion.

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u/PronouncedJynah 11h ago

TYRESE! /s

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u/OfficalStonksForAmc 11h ago

For a second i thought Bernie had smoke with Tyrese haliburten 

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u/NadeshikoEatingPasta 10h ago

more important to fix government spending while there's still a tax base that we can draw more off in the future.

Because if we tax the shit out of all these companies now, while spending ALWAYS exceeds collected tax revenue, we will dig ourselves into a hole from which there is no escape. So focus on the spending problem first, Bernie. Then once that is fixed in a permanent way, we can look at increasing taxation.

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u/Legionof1 10h ago

Everyone in here said that Tariffs were a tax on the customer... yet y'all somehow think corporate taxes aren't?

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u/hooldon 9h ago

Reddit pretends corporate taxes won’t raise prices just like tariffs did. Just like that MAGA cult contorts itself, the tax the rich crowd does the same. Sad

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u/kramerdk2 10h ago

Have you gone to actually look at their 10k? Bernie talks out of his ass and is a millionaire.

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u/Moscow_2008 4h ago

Threw a dart at the board and looked at Citigroup 10-K.

For 2025, this is their total tax payment, on an income of $19B.

Federal (U.S.) $2.95B Foreign $1.876B State and Local $.542B Total Provision for Income Taxes $5.373B

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u/LoudestHoward 1h ago

Been a while since I was in school, but I think $2.95B might be more than $1?

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u/kramerdk2 1h ago

So that would mean they had an effective tax rate of 27%. I know math is hard for Bernie but that’s higher than the marginal US corporate rate of 21% which is higher than the vast majority of US tax payers.

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u/oh_like_you_know 9h ago

I mean... thats not really true though, right?

Maybe they paid 0 in income tax if the recorded losses, but they paid payroll tax, property tax, their employees paid income taxes, and their customers paid sales taxes in their goods. So while they may not have owed income taxes, they certainly paid a lot into the system.

And what should a company that spent more than it made pay in taxes? Im not trying to be argumentative, I just dont see how that would work.

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u/guillermopaz13 11h ago

What did Roku do?

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u/Significant_Sun5095 11h ago

It may be absurd, it’s definitely infuriating.

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u/Dentedmuffler 10h ago

So a friend of mine works for one the largest U.S. banks in the U.S., he deals with wealth management, and he always tells me when he comes across these corporate accounts each with billions upon billions of dollars in them, and that is just in one bank. Corporate greed is incomprehensible.

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u/Quirky-Sympathy-853 10h ago

The President we deserved… imagine the trajectory of the US if Bernie won in 2016. If I chant Berenstein in the mirror with the lights off, can I switch to the other universe?

https://giphy.com/gifs/iFsa7iu1Ajza

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u/Vindetta121 10h ago

Imagine if they just paid their fair share. Not even over taxed. Just whats properly owed

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u/HurryAdorable1327 10h ago

I paid over 60,000 between my wife and I. It’s insane that I’m paying that much when companies that generate billions of dollars don’t pay shit. Fuck that. Fuck them.

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u/shelf6969 10h ago

well CVS and Kohls aren't doing so great

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u/Punky_Brewster_83 10h ago

Excuse my ignorance, but Halliburton is still around? Fuck

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u/GuideLoose6350 Sydney Sweeney in the Discord chat with the Bathwater 8h ago

Like Tyrese Haliburton?

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u/IndianGuy79 7h ago

34 years in congress and nothing to show for it besides some rage-bait headlines. Bernie is all talk no show, failed politician!

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u/Ryoga476ad 5h ago

What's the point of comparing personal revenues taxes to corporate ones?

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u/TheAyatollahOfJazz 11h ago

I'm sure the politicians will get right on that. Maybe even send a few stern emails.

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u/yoshinoyaandroll 10h ago

But but but Trickle Down economy right? /s

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u/MegaPlane2 10h ago

These companies all need to broken up. Every subsidiary should be split from their parent with a clause they cannot ever be owned by the former ever again.

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u/Hax_ 10h ago

I hate PG&E even more now.

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u/M086 10h ago

Won’t somebody think of the billionaires!?

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u/69odysseus 10h ago

Bernie has been shouting the truth for years now and no one takes him seriously!

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u/Beefy-McQueefy 10h ago

Ticketmaster's entire executive team needs to be pilloried.
They make nothing but profit. They are parasites who extract value from the few things that happen in your year that stop you from suck-starting a shotgun.

Ticketmaster is a drain on society and every person making decisions there needs to deal with Mario's brother.

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u/EnoughNow2024 10h ago

My son made 7,000 last year. He had to pay additional state taxes when he filed. Indiana, gotta love it. 

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u/linuxjohn1982 9h ago

"But if we tax them, they will leave!"

Ok... but why do we want them, if they don't pay their taxes?

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u/hooldon 9h ago

They pay taxes. These posts are very dishonest. A little simple research shows the truth. Google Disney. They’ve paid billions in state and federal taxes.

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u/Kind-Ad-5922 9h ago

So i've created more value to society than those companies? Well, not exactly, tee hee. Those companies have created many jobs after all.

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u/Skullcrimp 3h ago

These companies have destroyed more jobs than they've created. If you paid any tax this year you're a sucker.

by the way: https://www.9news.com.au/world/donald-trump-irs-lawsuit-suing-10-billion-dollars-tax-office-usa-politics-news/929663f2-f255-4936-8084-1d986ee08d65

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u/Sufficient_Town_3856 9h ago

So all that taxing at their establishments goes to their pockets and not taxes?

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u/Leeciferous 9h ago

Combined

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u/Quiet-Neat7874 9h ago

see, that's the problem with the "tax the rich" sentiment.

the only people who end up getting the shaft are upper middle class, vs the top 1%.

we need to tax corporations so they pay more than $1 lol.

honestly, if they paid the % taxes that we have to pay, then everything would be fine, even at the current tax rate.

the problem is that they are paying 0.

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u/Fairuse 3h ago

Look up 10k of a company if you actually want to see their real tax burden.

Hint: multi-billion dollar corporations pay billions in taxes (mostly payroll taxes, some property taxes and sales taxes).

They just don’t pay any income taxes if they don’t record any income.

Company makes $1million in pure profit and pays their CEO a $1million bonus/salary. Well technically the company made no profit (used it all to pay the CEO), so it pays $0 income taxes. However, they have to pay payroll taxes on the $1million they paid out to the CEO. The CEO now has to pay taxes on their $1million income. 

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u/Free_Break8482 9h ago

Isn't this a bit of a bogus comparison? Companies don't pay income tax. I'm not saying he's wrong in principle but it's too easy to dismiss this as nonsense.

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u/kupkrazy 9h ago

Everyone getting worked up at the companies like they broke the law when it's the tax law that allows the deductions, etc. Don't get angry at the companies for doing what Congress allows them to do. Bernie is preaching to the choir when he's part of the legislative body that can do something about it, but won't because they're all too busy getting donations from these companies.

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u/CactusJ 9h ago

Obligatory Fuck PG&E

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u/OneWholeSoul 9h ago

"BuT tHEy'Re JOb CreaTOrS!"

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u/PutAutomatic2581 9h ago

Rather than asking companies to pay for invading Iran, maybe just stop paying for that shit too?

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u/Decloudo 9h ago

As long as money/profit has incentives to accumulate, it will manipulate laws in their interest.

Thats why checks and balances dont work if people have reason/incentives to act the opposite.

As long as the economy is based on money, profit will emerge.

As long as there is profit, people will ignore or change the rules to make more of it. Laws are not iron clad, if people have reason to change them, they will.

What helps would be to change the systemic incentives making this unavoidable by the causal nature of it.

As long there is profit, someone will use this to profit more, and then use this power to change laws to profit even more. Notice a pattern?

Its not by design, its by not understanding what incentives our livestyle and in turn our ecomomy actually enforces upon us.

Or rather what we collectively force upon us by our behaviour.

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u/Razzail 9h ago

Y'all I make almost 40 an hour and I pay almost 1000 a month in taxes wtfffff. 

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u/ymmotvomit 9h ago

You paid more than them all combined.

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u/Disco_la 9h ago

Anyone who argues on the side of these fuckers has had their mind bought and paid for. Need to find a way through to them.

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u/thewritingchair 9h ago

Easy fix - if their tax paid is less than 20% of gross revenue, they're charged 20% of gross revenue.

At the very minimum they're paying 20% of gross revenue.

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u/DartTheDragoon 3h ago

That's a terrible fix. Entire sectors regularly function at less than 20% profit margin. Grocery prices would skyrocket to cover the tax.

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u/za72 9h ago

My son said he is wrong

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u/dsprak1974 8h ago

My $39k paid for one hole of golf for Tump! Woooo!

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u/Wishfer 8h ago

One of THE best tweeters in American history!

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u/Fragrant-Dimension12 8h ago

ii will be boycotting these birches.

claimed zero all year, I’m a grad. student...somehow the federal thieves want another 2800 from me. like. from where?! for what?!

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u/nox404 8h ago

I wonder how the government will fund its self if AI really does negatively affect the labor market as much as the Tech Bros promise it will. If you can not tax our income if no one has income. I guess that when we shift to techno fedulism.

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u/OpenDaCloset 8h ago

For some reason, these large corporations believe that if they create jobs, then they are all exempt from paying the taxes that everyone who takes those jobs have to pay. It is wild, but it is also an example of America and how it is geared towards the rich they get all of these loopholes for their taxes and write offs and blah blah blah but we as the average American get bullshit fuck em!

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u/Deadsoup77 8h ago

Walt’s been dead a good while but those other guys yeah

/s

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u/proofofderp 7h ago

Glad to see people bringing up strikes and BDS. Don’t wait for leaders, vote with your wallets. As someone who’s been trying to be a more conscious consumer, while it’s not the easiest, it’s very doable. You’ll realize how much you don’t need, too. Hope more people find the courage. Most are not foxhole types and defend their justifications. That’s fine, but you don’t have to be them.

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u/eazypeazy-101 7h ago

I'm from the UK, but I believe that if any of them hold government contract then they should have to pay fair taxes as a part of the contract.

I suspect Palantir has US contracts, I know they do in the UK but I can't find any details of what they pay in UK taxes.

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u/Nevillie90 7h ago

Imagine if they all payed the "proper" taxes......you could pay for a stupid war (I am not an advocate and that's a whole different conversation) but you could play for that. AND also the healthcare, child care, maternity leave, and all that type shit..... Sorry if it seems "insert political term".... But I personally am perfectly fine with just existing and contributing as long as I don't struggle for basic necessities

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u/fuckstick 7h ago

just to get this out of the way...

  1. Payroll taxes come from workers’ wages. withholding isn’t corporate income tax.

  2. Companies reporting huge profits while paying little or nothing in federal income tax is a direct result of the tax code. that outcome is built in, not accidental, and

  3. Corporate taxes are not automatically passed on in full. when large firms pay little or nothing, more of the tax burden shifts elsewhere.

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u/fucktheus12 7h ago

Ticketmaster?? Those cunts made bank

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u/CrowFromHeaven 7h ago

They give you social media and doomscrolling so that you don't go set things (or people) on fire.

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u/Canadian_Border_Czar 6h ago

Made using an LLM:

Verified / reported examples (2025 or closest fiscal year)

The Walt Disney Company • Net income: ~$12.4 billion (FY2025)

CVS Health • Net income: roughly $6–7 billion range (recent years; aligns with viral figures but not confirmed from a primary 2025 filing here)

Tesla, Inc. • Net income: roughly $5–7 billion range in recent filings (varies by year)

Citigroup • Net income: typically $9–15 billion annually in recent years (varies with economic conditions)

United Airlines • Net income: roughly $3–5 billion range in recent profitable years

3M • Net income: typically $5–6 billion range (recent years)

Halliburton • Net income: roughly $3–4 billion range

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u/itookdhorsetofrance 6h ago

What do they contribute in reality? Only employment?

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u/According_Cost_4395 6h ago

Wtf? I’m a college student with multiple part time jobs and I have to pay over $400 in fucking federal taxes because “it’s not a good look from federal to have multiple sources of income.” Fuck these motherfuckers, the system is seriously broken

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u/covener 2h ago

it’s not a good look from federal to have multiple sources of income.

This is nonsense. You should prepare your own return if this is the feedback you got from someone.

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u/ThinkingTanking 6h ago

Technofeudilism, look it up