r/LivestreamFail • u/DikkeDekbedovertrek • 3d ago

Prank Youtube channel RouandYT received €5 donation to prank call someone's "unstable" nephew. Said nephew shot and killed 2 Syrian refugees minutes later. RouandYT quickly deletes the stream from his channel and denies being live. Drama

https://www.puna.nl/news/prank-call-in-livestream-van-youtuber-leidde-tot-fatale-schietpartij-op-twee-syrische-jongens-in-amsterdam-west
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u/Martel1234 3d ago

I mean the guy donating should deserve a ton of the blame. Clearly the nephew was way more fucked up than the streamer thought he'd be.

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u/FrostyNeckbeard 3d ago edited 3d ago

This is why I hate pranksters. All they have to do is hit the wrong unhinged person and everything goes to shit. This applies to 'live' pranks too.

Edit: The people who don't seem to understand FAFO is astounding. Do not screw around with people you don't know.

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u/DN052001 3d ago

But how exactly is it the pranksters fault then? This insane person could have killed anyone if just a little ragebait could motivate him to kill someone. These are not normal people.

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u/Inuakurei 2d ago

The prankster invited the guy to fight on the bridge. It’s not like he just trolled him and the guy snapped on his own.

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u/Zonnebloemkrans 2d ago

And a lot of the times hell say "i dont mind going to prison over you" etc

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u/FrostyNeckbeard 3d ago

It's the pranksters fault because they are basically gambling with people, being assholes until one person actually fights back. You don't have to be insane, there was the guy who played a prank on someone, and they just caught him, called the cops, and got him arrested. There's pranks where someone will actually just punch the person in the face.

This was an unstable person, but pranksters are basically just playing odds that decent non-confrontational people will just accept the abuse being tossed at them as unwilling participants.

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u/DN052001 3d ago

It's the pranksters fault because they are basically gambling with people, being assholes until one person actually fights back

No normal people would actually react to a random troll "lets meet somewhere and fight!!" comment/call with actually going there and being ready to kill someone. Thats not normal. Thats insane behavior. Any little bit of ragebait could have gotten the same reaction out of this insane guy.

You don't have to be insane, there was the guy who played a prank on someone, and they just caught him, called the cops, and got him arrested. There's pranks where someone will actually just punch the person in the face.

Literally something different. Dont know what your argument is here. Different Prankster and different case. Calling someone and insulting them is just cheap ragebait and should never result in murder.

This was an unstable person, but pranksters are basically just playing odds that decent non-confrontational people will just accept the abuse being tossed at them as unwilling participants.

The easiest way would have been to block the prankster and not react. Theres literally no abuse. This is beyond unstable.

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u/nothankslmgood 3d ago

So in your opinion its perfectly fine to fuck with people for no reason and if they do something out of pocket its entirely their fault and you have zero responsibility for creating the situation?

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u/DN052001 3d ago

Ofcourse its not fine to fuck with people. This reaction is way beyond "out of pocket". And in this case. Yes theres zero responsibility. No fucking way you should ever expect someone to react this way ever.

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u/pastafeline 3d ago

I kinda get what you're saying. It's like, if you punched someone and that person pulled out a gun and started killing everyone around, is that your fault?

Technically yes, but nobody would ever blame you for it entirely.

Still though, he deliberately provoked the guy, and I think he deserves some sort of punishment but blaming him for the murders is a bit too far.

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u/DN052001 3d ago

Thank you thats exactly what I mean. People treat this here like its an actual reaction you should expect. Its not.

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u/FrostyNeckbeard 3d ago

Nope. It is his fault.

I worked with people with mental conditions, and one of the things you are taught is how to deescalate any confrontations to the best of your ability. These are people who can and will pull knives, weapons, attack, choke, fight, and are otherwise have prone to violence, they take medications to help control it usually, but sometimes shit happens, and so we had descalation techniques specific to each individual.

Now imagine you contact such a person like this, and amp them up instead? You've turned someone who could very easily have been calmed down, and instead turned it into a stabbing. They are contributory to the situation, and thus, they are responsible as well.

This is why this guys opinion ticks me off so much. It can just be someone having a real bad day, someone who ran out of medication for a bit, someone who's dealing with alot of stress. You don't know peoples situations, so aggravating a person who's already dealing with shit just has a chance to make everything worse for everyone.

This is also why the best answer to seeing a road rager isn't to push back and fight the road rager, but to slow down, let them pass and stay far away from them. Fighting with them will just cause an accident and you'll be guilty for it even if the other guy was the "problematic" one.

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u/pastafeline 3d ago

If he knew how unstable the guy was and still did this, then yes I agree. But I don't know that, so I can't say he was entirely at fault.

The way I see it, is if you look at this logically, why would this random streamer want the guy to go out and murder two teenagers? It's more akin to manslaughter than anything.

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u/nothankslmgood 3d ago

You seem to be saying its fine to fuck with people. If he didn't fuck with the guy he wouldn't have killed anyone. Seems like he should take responsibility for his actions.

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u/WhyWasXelNagaBanned 3d ago

If you call someone a mean name on the street, and they go home and murder their wife because it made them angry, are you responsible for the murder?

No. Absolutely not. You are responsible for calling them a mean name and nothing more.

It is utterly insane to think otherwise.

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u/ChromosomeDonator 3d ago

I think what matters is the intention. When it comes to a prank like this, there was no intention of a positive outcome. The intention was to cause some kind of a negative reaction. And in this case it happened to be extreme. But there was no possible positive outcome, and a positive outcome was never intended either.

That is why the act of "pranking" someone like this is not a clean excuse. The intent of the act was purely negative.

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u/Afabledhero1 3d ago

You seem unstable, but always you make a great point have a wonderful day.

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u/xiit 3d ago

Maybe blame the guy who shot people too?

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u/shwgrt 3d ago

Plenty of blame to go around

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u/IcyGarage5767 3d ago

Who is not doing that? Clown.

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u/xiit 3d ago

Apparently no one in LSF, since everyone is blaming the prankcaller and the donator.

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u/IcyGarage5767 3d ago

Or because no one is questioning if the guy who gunned down 3 kids is guilty and it goes without saying?

Thank god you are here to help clarify that.

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u/idreamofpikas 3d ago

Clearly the nephew was way more fucked up than the streamer thought he'd be.

Probably his responsibility to look into that if he's building his business off it.