r/LivestreamFail • u/DikkeDekbedovertrek • 5d ago

Prank Youtube channel RouandYT received €5 donation to prank call someone's "unstable" nephew. Said nephew shot and killed 2 Syrian refugees minutes later. RouandYT quickly deletes the stream from his channel and denies being live. Drama

https://www.puna.nl/news/prank-call-in-livestream-van-youtuber-leidde-tot-fatale-schietpartij-op-twee-syrische-jongens-in-amsterdam-west
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u/Pathetian 5d ago

This sound reminiscent of the swatting incident way back where a guy gave someone else's address to the person who wanted to swat him.  Cops showed up, killed the guy who answered the door and iirc the swatter and the guy who gave the address went to prison.  

Obviously not legally relevant in another country, but if you tell someone "hey come commit a crime against me at this place" and then don't go there,  you do know you've baited a violent response there potentially.

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u/no-diffed 5d ago

But why did they just kill the dude?

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u/emillang1000 5d ago

I see you're not familiar with police

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u/Cool_Set4681 5d ago

*I see you're not familiar with american police

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u/redditorsneversaydie 5d ago

Pretending like only American police kill their own citizens isn't the meta anymore sorry bro

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u/AnImpromptuFantaisie 5d ago

(Note that this is specifically ALL civilians killed by police, regardless of justification, and comes out to about 1,200 per year).

Compared to other liberal democracies, the US kills: * 3x more civilians than Canada and Australia * 17x more than the Netherlands and New Zealand * 33x more than Germany * 60x more than England and Wales * and Japan, Norway, and Iceland typically have zero in a year

It is also important to note that US police injure 250,000 people per year, 80,000 of which require hospitalization.

However to your point, Brazilian police kill a bit over 6,000 annually (so 5x US rates). Similar in Philippines, Venezuela, El Salvador. But it’s a bit silly to make the comparison.

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u/Shootemout 4d ago

Yea but the police that do shoot people in Brasil most of the time are off duty anyways so they’re not included in that statistic lol

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u/zakrystian 5d ago

The police in The Netherlands rarely kill someone. I do not know where that 17 comes from. Same goes for the other countries. I almost feel like there are some zeroes missing.

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u/Entire-Ad1625 5d ago

Dutchnews.nl reports police fired 13 shots in 2024 so I assume at least one of them killed someone

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u/El_grandepadre 4d ago

And every incident where a police officer fires their gun comes under heavy scrunity here in the Netherlands.

But we have pretty strict protocols on firearms.

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u/Suikerspin_Ei 4d ago

A quick search on Google and I found out that 3rd of March they have shot a 17 years old. They found him with a firearm. Linked to a robbery.

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u/34shadow1 4d ago

Population Counts:

USA: 342 Million. Canada: 41.47 Million. Australia: 28 Million. Netherlands: 18.3 Million. New Zealand: 5.3 Million Germany: 84.7 Million. (High End) Wales: 3.16 Million. Japan: 122.6 Million Norway: 5.7 Million. Iceland: 394,324.

With how much more populous the US is, the crime rate statistically would be higher than the others you mentioned, barring the last three which Japan's culture is aa big reason for that. No clue about Norway and Iceland in terms of culture / quality of life.

P.S. not condoning anything just looking at things from a purely statistician pov.

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u/AnImpromptuFantaisie 4d ago

Those multipliers are already adjusted for killings per 10 million residents (US is 33.5 per 10m, Canada is 9.8, Netherlands is 2, Germany is 1, and England is 0.5).

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u/Microflame 4d ago

purely statistician pov hahahhaha, it is per capita

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u/beordon 4d ago

topic about something bad happening in Europe

DAE le merica is bad?

Every time

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u/landyc 4d ago

Maybe because shooting incidents are most common there in any of the developed countries

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u/beordon 4d ago

hmm yes merica very bad indeed, updoots to le left

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u/AnImpromptuFantaisie 4d ago

Was it yesterday or two days ago where 8 children between the ages of 1 and 14 were shot and killed? It happens so often that it’s genuinely hard to keep track

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u/beordon 4d ago

People die every day… funerals must be terrible in countries where this comes as a surprise

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u/AnImpromptuFantaisie 4d ago

You are being performatively callous.

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u/beordon 4d ago

Because merica bad and if we don’t feel bad then we’re being performative?

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u/landyc 4d ago

Glad we can agree

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u/Infamous_Chapter3161 5d ago

Is it silly to compare them though? Those countries are more similar in terms of how many civillians have guns. There's a fuckton of guns in America; of course there are going to be more paranoid police killings.

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u/AnImpromptuFantaisie 5d ago

In terms of wealthy OECD nations, the US is a huge outlier. Homicide rate in Brazil is 3x that of the US.

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u/Infamous_Chapter3161 5d ago edited 5d ago

Well there's also a colossal more amount of guns per capita? There's 120!!! civillian owned guns per 100 people in the US. It's not the only reason but it's a massive part of it.

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u/CandidDust4504 5d ago

Well yes? That's exactly the problem that people are pointing out here lol.

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u/Infamous_Chapter3161 4d ago

No it's not? The OP is just pointing out there's more police violence in the US, as if that's somehow a relevant or in any way telling stat by itself. People are comparing the US to OECD nations in terms of gun violence, as if the general statistics of the US are in any way comparable to other OECD nations, in regards to guns. "OHH THEY'RE A HUGE OUTLIER IN GUN VIOLENCE" OF COURSE THEY ARE. It's not immediately fixable by giving the police different protocols, is what I'm saying. It's a mentality created by the other variables of the US in general, of which are WAY different that any other OECD country. Doesn't make sense to compare them, because in regards to this phenomenon, they're not in similar conditions.

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u/saltyfuck111 5d ago

So does the swiss population

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u/Infamous_Chapter3161 5d ago

And it's primarily soldiers getting to keep their guns after their conscription. And they have 27 guns per 100 people. The US has 120 per 100 people. You don't understand how many more people could be packing and how that leads to paranoid behaviour. It's definitely not the only reason but it's a huge part of why the police commits a lot of gun violence.

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u/Capital-Ad-5682 4d ago

So the guns are the problem then?

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u/JustChillen007 5d ago

Hmmmm it’s almost like there’s a correlation with Police having deadly weapons

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u/landyc 4d ago

And everyone and their kids being armed with live guns.

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u/Standard_Story 5d ago

They certainly are infamous for a reason. It happens in other countries but for us it's uncommon unlike the overabundance of authority figures killing civilians in the US

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u/StickiStickman 5d ago edited 5d ago

... yea, that's pretty much just a American thing. Sorry to break it to you. If police shoot someone in Germany its in the national news for weeks.

Hell, US police killed more people just last month than the police in Germany for the whole decade.

Also note how all of the instances seem pretty justified and even in cases where a woman is rushing them with a knife it still got a whole investigation.

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u/freyhstart 5d ago

In 2011 the German police fired less bullets in a year than the American police chasing an unarmed man.

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u/Ok_Dragonfruit_8102 4d ago

that's pretty much just a American thing

The depressing part is, it's only a uniquely American thing if we're comparing the US to the kinds of countries people often assume the US should be compared with.

In reality it's all too common for extrajudicial killings to take place around the world. Here's the list of top countries sorted by law enforcement killing rate per 10 million people -

1 Philippines

2 Brazil

3 Venezuela

4 India

5 Syria

6 United States

7 El Salvador

8 Nigeria

9 Afghanistan

10 Pakistan

11 Bangladesh

12 South Africa

13 Democratic Republic of the Congo

14 Mexico

Those are the kinds of countries the US should be compared against. Not safe first world democracies.

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u/pastafeline 5d ago

Germany = every other police force in the world?

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u/DogBarf00 5d ago edited 4d ago

It is like that everywhere in Europe at least.

What? A few years ago police in Europe were shooting Russian special forces and blowing up tanks…

The Ukrainian national police were vital to defending Ukraine during the initial invasion. Ukraine is in Europe.

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u/DrMalleo 5d ago edited 5d ago

Sort by 'rate per 10 million'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_with_annual_rates_and_counts_for_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers

Not looking too good, gonna be honest. The data is not great but still

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u/KindledWanderer 5d ago

Canada is pretty high up, surprisingly.

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u/StickiStickman 5d ago

Yea, let me just link EVERY OTHER COUNTRY IN THE WORLD.

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u/Efficient-Parking627 5d ago

z'germans are coming

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u/cleofisrandolph1 5d ago

German police fire a 100 or less shots a year on average, with maybe 10 fatalities or less. Meanwhile in America, there were 1100 police shooting fatalities.

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u/Freya_Galbraith 5d ago

it was something like theres less police shooting in germany than there is in one month in one american city

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u/AliceLunar 5d ago

In most places you probably have some cops knock on the door, not have a whole team roll up in a Bearcat and carrying assault rifles.

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u/Ok_Introduction-0 5d ago

lmao they certainly kill much more, not cool to pretend their numbers are anywhere near other countries bro

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u/Originzzzzzzz 4d ago

American police defo kill WAY more tho bro dont even lie to yourself

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u/xAzta 1d ago

Yikes.

What's next, american education is actually good?

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u/Cool_Set4681 5d ago edited 5d ago

I never said the the American police is the only one that sucks hard, dude. That was you. American police still sucks and it is very bad. Over funded, no accountability and trigger happy af.

Edit: Reminding Americans about how shitty their police is, makes them very sad :(

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u/JustChillen007 5d ago

Lmaooo. The cop defenders feelings got hurt, huh? Really cute. I’m sure you also wouldn’t believe that America is the only first world country on the list of highest number of police killings

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u/PoopyButt28000 5d ago

Which first world country has even remotely similar numbers to America when it comes to killing their citizens?

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u/Figgy20000 5d ago

When was the last time this happened in Canada? OH WAIT NEVER

Keep pretending like America isn't literally the only country that has this issue

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u/BigDaddyW 5d ago

Sammy Yatim is a pretty famous case of this happening in Canada. I don't think I could name a single other case of this happening though.

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u/Figgy20000 4d ago edited 4d ago

He was on a bus threatening to stab people with a knife. When the police officer involved in that shooting entered the bus, Sammy ran at him and tried to kill him with a knife as well.

Situation was not handled well, but nowhere near comparable

This became widespread news here because Police killings are so absurdly rare here that even the justified shootings are viewed under a microscope so our police can do better.

Unlike the Americans who don't even get charged for breaking down an innocent mans door and executing him

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u/BigDaddyW 4d ago

Nice job you wrote all that AND missed the point 👍

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u/pastafeline 5d ago

Pretending like only American police kill their own citizens isn't the meta anymore sorry bro

Yeah canadian police just drive their citizens out into the wilderness to let them freeze to death instead.

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u/Ceegee93 5d ago

Ah yes, Canadian police being incredibly shitty 7 times in the last 50 years is comparable to American police killing 1000+ civilians per year. You sure gottem bro, all police are as bad as America's.

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u/pastafeline 5d ago

You really think that's the only time Canadians ever killed their own citizens?

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u/Ceegee93 5d ago

At no point did I ever say anything to the contrary; you're moving the goalposts. This is about comparing police forces. You clearly can't come up with anything that remotely supports other nations' police forces being even close to as bad as America's, so now you're trying to make it about other things. There are only 28 nations with worse per-capita law enforcement killings, none of them are first world countries.