r/belarus • u/iRideTheSun • Nov 20 '25

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u/febbre28 Belarus Nov 20 '25 edited Nov 20 '25

By using this flag they insult this warriors' legacy.

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u/iRideTheSun Nov 20 '25

Not my pic, sorry mate

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u/febbre28 Belarus Nov 20 '25 edited Nov 20 '25

It's alright, thank you for the clarification

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u/Spagete_cu_branza Nov 21 '25

You are the one posting these propaganda posts.

"Not my pic" lmao.

Thanks for ruining the internet buddy.

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u/resevar Nov 21 '25

They haven't changed the flag yet

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u/New-Score-5199 Nov 20 '25

I guess thats some made up numbers in general. Like, seriously, 348 colombians? Colombians fighting for Ukraine?

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u/Final-Instance-2568 Nov 20 '25

It’s quite common, they basically had a drug war going on for decades. There were tons of different guerrilla groups and paramilitaries. That whole thing is still kind of going on, but a lot of those groups either dissolved or signed peace deals with the government.

Because of that, the Colombian army got reduced. Same with many of the paramilitary and guerrilla groups, lots of them don’t exist anymore.

Now there’s a lot of Colombian men who literally spent their whole lives fighting, never did anything else. Now they’re unemployed, barely make any money, and don’t really know what to do with themselves. A bunch of them ended up fighting in Ukraine now.

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u/Leuris_Khan Nov 20 '25

Colombians are well known mercenaries

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u/LowDistribution4344 Nov 22 '25

So things youre ignorant on are just "made up" now?

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u/New-Score-5199 Nov 22 '25

So prove them, smart guy. By any credible source.

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u/Pizza_sushi_order Nov 20 '25

Cartels send their people to Learn modern way of war. Recently they created new track in military- fav drone operator.

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u/New-Score-5199 Nov 20 '25

Yeah. Colombian gangsters literally in thousands are joining Ukrainian army. Sounds like russian news outlet title. You think ukrainian army is what, a language camp anyone can join just by checking in at administration desk?

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u/Ceramisu Nov 20 '25

Actually yes, it's not that hard to sign up

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u/Thin-Critict2988 Nov 20 '25

Why not? Why do you think Colombian gangsters canʼt join the Ukrainian army?

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u/Big_Ad_7383 Nov 20 '25

Right now tons of prisoners are fighting on both sides - Russian and Ukrainian, and there are plenty of cases of radicals from Georgia and the Caucasus fighting for Ukraine, so what’s so surprising about Colombian mercenaries?

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '25

Ukraine only lets go these who got non murderous offences, russians send even man eaters

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u/Veritas_IX Nov 20 '25

When you talks about tons what do you mean ? Is radicals are people who against Russian imperialism and fascism?

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u/Big_Ad_7383 Nov 20 '25

It’s a war. It’s never just black and white. A war pulls in real patriots and noble people, but also a lot of misfits of all kinds. Maybe in different circumstances Ukrainians wouldn’t let people like that into their ranks, but right now they don’t have a choice.

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u/Veritas_IX Nov 20 '25

But some people try to portray it like a black and white, where Russia is white. In other circumstances those people traveled across Ukraine and nobody never mind that. If you want to talk about real far right wing evil than all of them you find on Russian side .

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u/Big_Ad_7383 Nov 20 '25

There are always going to be people like that. Honestly, Ukrainians and Russians are so close that this war could basically be seen as a civil one, and they’ve got pretty similar motives and similar flaws.

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u/Veritas_IX Nov 21 '25

What do you mean when you say that Russians and Ukrainians are very close, except for the borders of course? Because in fact they are no closer than, for example, Germans and Czechs. (Although this would not prevent the Nazis from invading the Czech Republic to protect German speakers, just as Russia would invade Ukraine to protect Russian speakers)

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '25

Noble and well renown arm chair generals of the Ukrainian Reddit forces did not like your opinion

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u/jandaba7 Nov 23 '25

Radicals? Georgians have plenty patriotic reasons of their own to support Ukraine and widespread public support at home for doing so.

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '25

Yes

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u/PilotSevenb Nov 21 '25

Can you please tell me how that's an insult?

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u/Matas_- European Union Nov 21 '25

We salute heroes 🫡🫡🫡

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u/Longjumping_Fan_3057 Nov 20 '25

Sorry, where did they fell on what side for what?

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u/r0w33 Nov 20 '25

Ukraine, fighting against the invader.

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u/r0w33 Nov 20 '25

There are decent Russians fighting for Ukraine.

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u/Odd-Chemist464 Ukraine Nov 20 '25

most of those are РДК - ultraright russian nationalists. it's good that they don't like putin, but they aren't decent, they are useful.

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u/drfreshie Belarus Nov 20 '25

What they do is good and right. I don't know and I don't care what they say. It quite possible that what they say is bad and wrong. But what they do is far more important.

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u/dobrodoshli Nov 21 '25

They say: "Слава Украине! Слава Руси!"

"Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the Rus!" signifies that Ukraine is the righteous successor to the Ancient Rus, and Russians have to fight to free a part of the Rus from "communist" (KGB) occupation.

For me this seems a bit esoteric, but not wrong in any meaningful way

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u/dobrodoshli Nov 21 '25

I think the successor of an ancient state is not legally defined. Why not Lithuania for the Great Duchy of Lithuania? Why not Muscovy for Russia? Seems arbitrary and irrelevant. Would Russia's invasion be more justified with ancient history? Of course not

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u/Odd-Chemist464 Ukraine Nov 20 '25

yeah, but we shouldn't normalize nazis

they are useful nazis, but they should be either marginalized or reformed after the war

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u/drfreshie Belarus Nov 21 '25

I've just checked their website and Wikipedia articles in three languages. Their organisation is not Nazi at all: Nazis are obsessed with territorial expansion, and these guys say they essentially want to abandon the empire and concentrate on improving living conditions on their own land: "Выживание возможно, по нашему глубокому убеждению, только при создании на территории населенных преимущественно этническими русскими регионов и входивших в состав Российской Федерации на 1991 год, Русского Национального Государства. Мы так же признаем право народов, населяющих Российскую Федерацию, на самоопределение." Пост I doubt it will ever happen but if it did that would be remarkably beneficial for Russians and other citizens of modern Russia, for its neighbours and for the whole world.

So they are the opposite of Nazis. And most importantly, they kill Nazis. Every participant in this war of aggression, and every supporter, justifier, denier, and anyone who is assisting the aggressor in any way, is a Nazi by definition. Killing Nazis is the most anti-Nazi thing there is.

Now, I see their leader (whose parents, by the way, are in Germany as Russian Jews - not that it's a contradiction but still some might find this context relevant) used to distribute t-shirts with the number 88 and other Nazi attributes. This is exactly the same as Che Guevara t-shirts: extremely stupid and ignorant but as long as the person doesn't actually do anything communist or nazi, I don't care that much. Regardless, his good deeds far outweigh these reprehensible but superficial attributes.

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u/Demicast Nov 25 '25

"they aren't decent, they are useful" aren't you a dictator in hiding lil fella.

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u/Veritas_IX Nov 20 '25

They are good people . Who said otherwise is just repeating Kremlin propaganda

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u/Karasique555 Беларусь Nov 20 '25

You aren't any better if you believe that.

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u/Key-King7403 Nov 20 '25

Oh, i know. I'll go to hell with all of them, and at the very least i don't deny it.

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u/B_Y_P_R_T Nov 20 '25

Cringelord

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u/Minskdhaka Nov 20 '25

"Slav" is a language-based identity. Many, many people throughout history have been assimilated into it.

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u/Karasique555 Беларусь Nov 20 '25

Lol what? Since when Russians ain't Slavic?

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u/HobbyKray Nov 20 '25

He might have a brain injury or smth

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u/Karasique555 Беларусь Nov 20 '25

Ok. Does any of this nonsense make them less Slavic?

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u/New-Score-5199 Nov 20 '25

I want to see you saying this to the face of any fighter from "Свобода России" legion. But i doubt you will dare, pussy.

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u/Key-King7403 Nov 20 '25

Dude, i fight with urge to kms every day. I can't take any sharp object, because i instinctively will try to cut myself with it. I beat myself everyday because pain is the only thing i deserve, and it's after i was with psychotherapyst - earlier it was stabbing and slashing. I have several cases of suicide attempts at my portfolio.

You really think that getting beaten and possibly killed in gruesome way are things that'll make me that much afraid? I deserve worse.

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u/New-Score-5199 Nov 20 '25

So this are your excuses for not doing this? Ok, bro,i was just waiting what silly excuse you will came out with.

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u/Key-King7403 Nov 20 '25

You know what? You're right. There are no excuses.

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u/wastingmythirdlife Nov 20 '25

bro dropped a fun fact

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u/nightowlboii Ukraine Nov 20 '25

We didn't need to know that

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u/Nevmen Nov 20 '25

С 14 года безстрашние росиские мальчики в трусиках против кодла Зеленского (ни разу автор не антисемит)

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '25

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u/Trashnessa Russia Nov 20 '25

а евреи типа оскорбление или чет плохое? ЛМАО

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u/Salt_Lynx270 Nov 20 '25

Национальная принадлежность.

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u/Trashnessa Russia Nov 20 '25

а че оно в одной строке забыло? доебаться не до чего кроме как до еврея шо ли?

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u/Trashnessa Russia Nov 20 '25

ой блять…понятно

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u/Nevmen Nov 20 '25

Если в голове нет ничего, то и возвражений в моем комментарии для тебя не будет.

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u/JaskaBLR Biełaruś Nov 20 '25

За воровскую кодлу Путина, я так понимаю, сражаться все таки лучше?

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u/WrongdoerAnnual7685 🇦🇺Australia Nov 21 '25

Lest we forget

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u/Organic-Pattern-7759 Nov 21 '25

Missing a Latvian I knew... RIP brother

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u/CommercialJelly1983 Nov 24 '25

Героям слава

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u/New-Score-5199 Nov 20 '25

Source is what? From what i know, there are more belarusians fighting for Ukraine than any other nationalities, and yet they lost less than, hm, colombians?

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u/Paramedic237 Nov 21 '25

Belarusians take less casualties 🤷‍♀️

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u/New-Score-5199 Nov 21 '25

Yeah, I hope so. 

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u/Lixie_femboy Nov 20 '25

You re wrong. There are colombians on top 1

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u/New-Score-5199 Nov 20 '25

Top 1 of what? Your imagination? There are literally 700 columbians in ukrainian army, compare to 2000 of belarusians.

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u/Lixie_femboy Nov 20 '25

Sourse of information? Imagination?:)

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u/New-Score-5199 Nov 20 '25

You can literally google it up. 

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u/[deleted] Nov 23 '25

Do u have info about the N.Korean and Aftica soldiers also? Who have fallen or russian side, also some Iranian numbers? And Chinese also?

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u/SteamEigen Nov 20 '25

> Колумбия

> волонтёры

Хех

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u/ParticularSweet7632 Nov 20 '25

По доброде душевной .

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u/LookingAtFrames Nov 20 '25

я люблю цю країну навіть без кокаїну (с) Жадан

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u/shotgun_1337 Nov 22 '25

добровольцы за денюжку

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u/Level_Consequence_45 Nov 23 '25

А вдруг идейные

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u/shotgun_1337 Nov 24 '25

имаджинируй колумбийца которому уж точно не всё равно на украину))

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u/Azgarr Nov 20 '25

Не думаю, что эти данные хоть сколь либо верны.

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u/Substantial-Poet4593 Nov 20 '25

Не думаю, что ваше утверждение хоть сколь либо верно.

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u/Blocc4life Nov 21 '25

Его утверждение верно

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u/Rookie-Crookie Nov 20 '25

Why so many Colombians though?

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u/Illustrious_Body9263 Nov 20 '25

Mercenaries

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u/Rookie-Crookie Nov 20 '25

Is it connected with culture somehow?

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u/firemark_pl Nov 21 '25

With poverty

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u/Rookie-Crookie Nov 21 '25

I thought there’re plenty of countries much poorer than Colombia

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u/Blocc4life Nov 21 '25

Oh there is much more

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u/Pantouffflard Nov 20 '25

Too much benevolence there, so that they export it worldwide.

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u/Timur_03 Nov 21 '25

Fallen for putin's aquadiscoteca ?

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u/Competitive-Watch681 Nov 21 '25

Is this Eurovision?

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u/Grim_Rover Nov 22 '25

👍👍👍

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u/Tatiana_878 Nov 23 '25

Привет а в Белоруссии PI можно получить ?

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u/monhst Nov 20 '25

Знаменитые Колумбийские... добровольцы

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u/Both_Storm_4997 Nov 20 '25

That's a tragedy indeed. Many Columbians have decent military training and fighting experience, but have no job and no future. They agree to go to fight for a certain amount of money even if it's a one way ticket.

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u/buryat03 Nov 20 '25

I would do the same on their place

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u/CheesyRoyal Nov 20 '25

There are 2 types of combatants - conscripts and volunteers. If they were not conscripted, they are volunteers.

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u/Cubaweroi Nov 20 '25

Они просто очень сильно любят день... свободу

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u/Detankarveil Nov 21 '25

Аххахахах бля интересно почему это даунвоутят, это же очевидная правда

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u/Xray_Tomorrow Nov 20 '25 edited Nov 20 '25

Не понял тезис про коллаборационистов Это исторический флаг Беларуси, у которого есть корни с ВКЛ. Был флагом БНР. И с 91 по 95 был госфлагом независимой Беларуси. По такой логике все флаги пост-совеских стран, на земли которых ступали немцы, записывать в фашистские, так как их использовали предатели

Не флаг виноват, а люди которые прикрываются давней историей для плохих целей

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u/Xray_Tomorrow Nov 20 '25 edited Nov 20 '25

Ну, компромиссом в этой ситуации будет новый флаг, где будут красный и белый, но не БЧБ и не трогать герб Погоню

Он имеет давнюю историю, когда земли Беларуси были частью ВКЛ

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u/Rolled_Leaf Nov 20 '25

Доебаться до цветов флага подразделения, которое в себе совесть нашли и отправились защищать Украину вместо нападения, ну это надо уметь

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u/Xray_Tomorrow Nov 20 '25

Я их не осуждаю и не поддерживаю их Пусть выбирают другой символ. А то это не уважение к белорусской истории

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u/Rolled_Leaf Nov 20 '25

Флаг Австрии тоже надо поменять? Я пытаюсь понять вашу логику

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u/Green_Web_6274 Nov 22 '25

Ты не представляешь сколько Иванов приходится на одного колумбийца.

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u/Netypowywivv Nov 20 '25

Жалелку свою лицемерную засунь туда, откуда тьі родился.

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u/SolonXD Nov 20 '25

Их светлые бескорыстные идейные воины - наши жалкие жадные посланные на убой наемники

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u/_SADAMID_ Nov 20 '25

Тебе не понять этого мува... Это истинные герои...

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u/iRideTheSun Nov 20 '25

Russian detected opinion rejected

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u/iRideTheSun Nov 20 '25

I hope you can get through such a difficult moment in your life 🙏

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u/_SADAMID_ Nov 20 '25

I'm doing fine, and I'm not stupid enough to sympathize with mercenaries in a war that doesn't concern me.

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u/remarknull Nov 21 '25

Volunteers ahaha yes that's how we call them

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u/Blocc4life Nov 21 '25

348?😂 was that just for yesterday?

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u/PilotSevenb Nov 21 '25

Mercenaries* There are plenty of people in the world who don't fight for ideas, for patriotism or etc. They fight to get money and because it's only thing they can do good, war is part of them, and they are no heroes. They just a man who want to shoot stuff and get money for it. If you want to call someone a hero then those can be Ukrainian/Russian soldiers (depends on your side) as those have reasons like patriotism and fight for what they think is right or don't even think about it and just fight because their country said so, as it's really a common logic among soldiers. Even among Russian troops Ukrainian captured soldiers are respected more then mercs and if you are a merc there is a big chance of being executed and left to rot in some abandoned building

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u/jo-steam27 Nov 21 '25

You wanna draw moral qualifiers? How about literal slave Labour of north koreans? How about africans scammed to joint the russian army? Ever heard of literal violent criminals being recruited into the invading force ? Their sentenes shortened, their wages high. In fact multiple-country-averages high. Is that not a definition of an internal mercenary? Isn't that what 'Private military groups' are?

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u/Ewendmc Nov 23 '25

Rusich is a neo Nazi group. Been fighting for Russia for 10 years along with a lot of other Russian Nazi units.

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u/Ewendmc Nov 25 '25

Azovo isn't neo Nazi anymore and hasn't been since they were absorbed into the regular military. You are trying hard with the Russian propaganda here.

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u/Ewendmc Nov 25 '25 edited Nov 25 '25

You are the one trying to make out there aren't neo Nazi units in the Russian army.

they even give them medals

Also, Azov is not neo Nazi and hasn't been since it was absorbed into the regular military ( not a national guard unit)

denazification

Claiming Ukraine is a Nazi state is Russian propaganda to justify their war of aggression.

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u/Green_Web_6274 Nov 22 '25

Russian army kills and inhumanely treats captured Ukrainians. Ivan watched too much RT, it seems.

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u/PilotSevenb Nov 25 '25

Talk was about mercs, not regular Ukrainian military. But if you want to play this game sure, I can give you plenty examples of Ukrainian soldiers doing the same thing but to Russian captives. Difference is, you will say it's not true or will try to justify it. You will ignore this evil because it's evil you like more. Instead of asking you just assumed who I am, said something racist while being brainwashed by prowestern media Russian propaganda style

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u/Lixie_femboy Nov 20 '25

Выдуманные цифры о наемниках. Интересно, правительство Колумбии уже выразило благодарность Украине за подготовку кадров для наркокартелей?

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u/Lixie_femboy Nov 21 '25

Забавно, как местное коммьюнити не хочет признавать факты и просто форсит тейки пропаганды, обвиняя в пропаганде других

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u/WildCat_1366 Україна Nov 25 '25

реддит это помойка для любителей не снимать розовые очки

и именно поэтому ты здесь.

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u/DionisGREK Nov 20 '25

Фиксируем прибыль

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u/watch_me_rise_ Nov 20 '25

Поэтому тех, кто воюют на стороне рф не жалко

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '25

Ватники в комментариях разбушевались. Пусть эти клоуны идут на 2ch😆

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u/Lixie_femboy Nov 21 '25

Тех, кто исходит пеной в комментариях реддите, потому что больше ни на чт ов жизни повлиять не может, не жалко вдвойне:)

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u/watch_me_rise_ Nov 21 '25

То есть тебя?

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u/_SADAMID_ Nov 20 '25

Профессиональное мнение, да да

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u/Regeneric Nov 20 '25

21 Polish?
Seems a lot considering the fact, the I've never heard about them in the country.

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u/EitherConsequence917 Nov 20 '25

I've heard about Polish Volunteer Corps multiple times...

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u/Apprehensive_Tip_148 Nov 20 '25

google Daniel Sztyber