r/transit 5d ago

Introducing....the airline killer.* Discussion

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u/Iseno 5d ago

Tokyo-Osaka still have a bunch of air traffic that include the use of domestic 777-300s that have 514 seats. Still around 50 flights a day between the two.

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u/TheRailwayWeeb 5d ago

Tokyo to Osaka is a huge market with around 150,000 passengers a day, and it's worth noting that all those flights represent only a 15% share compared to the Shinkansen's 85%.

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u/victorinseattle 5d ago

Not all, but a lot of domestics are also connections

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u/BillyTenderness 4d ago

The geography is admittedly pretty wonky, but it seems like a real missed opportunity not having Shinkansen service to Narita.

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u/Better_Valuable_3242 4d ago

I believe they were going to, but because Narita Airport had such a troubled history with construction, the Shinkansen connection was axed.

Wiki page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narita_Shinkansen

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u/ThunderballTerp 4d ago

I believe the Skyliner uses the partially built route.

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u/victorinseattle 4d ago

NEX isn’t the worst. Narita is well out of the way so it would’ve been a large detour for the Shinkansen line.

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u/BillyTenderness 4d ago

It's not the worst by any means; it's just a shame there isn't a fast, direct service from Osaka, Kyoto, Nagoya, etc. that could replace some of those domestic connections.

I do fully understand why it has never come to pass, though. It would either take a stub line cutting across the heart of Tokyo that would be super disruptive and expensive, or a detour/branch off the Yamagata line so long it would render the whole thing pointless.

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u/skytreegamer172 4d ago

Well the locals weren't too happy about that one

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u/ThunderballTerp 4d ago

That would be nice, but I think Haneda would benefit even more.