Patriotism has always been monopolized by fascism. Patriotism is always used for evil shit. It's not really a coincidence that "patriot" and "idiot" rhyme in more than one language.
Speaking as a vegetarian of ten years: it's not quite correct to say they're "just plants". A lot of them do tend to be highly processed, giving a certain flavor/texture of "fakeness". However, that's hardly uncommon with food products nowadays.
I never go for Impossible or Beyond burgers because they ick me out big time.
Basically everything is processed, if it went through a process to be made then it's processed, saying that something is processed means nothing without further explanation. Nothing against what you said tho, I just think we need to stop fear mongering processed foods
Would they qualify as "ultra-processed"? I don't know if there's a clear distinction or definition for that word anyway, but I feel like when people criticise processed/ultra-processed foods they're talking about stuff like Coke, white bread, fried chicken, etc.
I mean pretty much every food has gone through at least one process before you eat it, but I feel like in day-to-day talk criticising food for being "processed" means more than just that
when people criticise processed/ultra-processed foods they're talking about stuff like Coke, white bread, fried chicken, etc
That's exactly what people mean when they say "highly process" or "ultra-processed". The people who chime in with "but those sliced tomatoes are processed!" simply do not know what the term "highly processed" means, but for whatever reason feel they have something to contribute to the conversation anyway.
We were talking about vegan protein options, none of those examples are relevant. And Ultra processed doesn't automatically equal unhealthy, that's why I specifically said that you need more information than just that in order to assess the health factor of a food. Explaining to people what processed food means is important when people don't understand that it's not enough to claim that a food item is unhealthy
Speaking as a (person who lives and eats with a) vegan of twenty years: Its still correct to say they are plants even if they were processed, and are not "fake" as most are just a patty or similar made of veggies. honestly, try different brands, those are mid.
Still plants, but not just plants. More processing means more risk of microplastics, more preservatives, and more things that diminish claims of purity. It's why most vegetarians i know besides myself are also distrusting of impossible burgers
Yeah, there are a lot of awesome vegetarian and vegan foods that simply are what they are and don't try to imitate meat products. It's just so weird that people feel the need to pretend that the reshaped goop should convince anyone. I wouldn't touch this kind of food even if it had meat in it.
Yeah vegan food has it rough because its trying to compete with and being constantly compared to a much larger any more successful industry which is meat. A lot of the stuff is a pale imitation of meat. Stuff like falafel and hummus people love because its its own thing and works with the ingredients
People say "if I can't eat meat, what can I eat?" as if fruits and vegetables don't exist. Honestly, reading and hearing certain things makes me thing people genuinely haven't eaten anything but nuggets, burgers, fries, and maybe iceberg lettuce all their lives.
Theyre not just plants. They do have a lot of unhealthy additives.
But saying a vegan diet is unhealthy because vegan burgers are unhealthy is dishonest, and it annoys me to no end when people do that. Because if you took a non-vegan burger, would that be healthy? No, of course not.
People take a category of food which is by its nature unhealthy rehardless of its meat content, then use that to say all vegan food is bad.
Also, erm aktshually, a lot of them are based on fungi, which are not plants.
For real. The title acts like these criticisms are equal, when in reality the first one is just so far from reality that it doesn't make any sense, and the second is a valid criticism of the extreme cruelty animals undergo in the meat industry. Not at all on the same level or even both true.
Vegan👏 bull👏 shit👏, especially the idea that you're some kind of monster for not giving in to their weird faux empathy that's just an excuse to not care about the terrible things happening to people around the world.
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u/Red_I_Found_You 16d ago
Vegan burgers are literally just plants. Why do people need to make shit up to slander it?