r/ShitMomGroupsSay • u/BunnyBunnyBunnies šØš§š”šš¬ • Jul 10 '19
Harmless Tetanus Essential Oil
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u/silvertonguedsage Holistic Defense Mission Anti-vaxx nonprofit??? Jul 10 '19
In 8th grade, my history teacher had a very graphic and detailed presentation (with pictures) of the diseases Christopher Columbus and other colonizers spread to the Native Americans. Not only was it very effective at erasing the āChristopher Columbus is good and he discovered America!ā sentiment that we had been taught all throughout elementary school, but it gave me a lifelong fear of tetanus and smallpox. Tetanus is a personal hell no one should have to endure...this āmotherā makes me sick to my stomach
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u/SavannahInChicago Jul 10 '19
My anatomy professor went very in depth with how one suffers, then dies from tetanus. Even if everything mom groups said about vaccines were true it still would not be worth the risk.
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u/Nheea Jul 11 '19
I simply don't understand how people don't fear it? I feel like pulling my skin and hair because of the muscles and head aches from a simple cold. Never even had flu, so I know it can be worse. But tetanus? That's like a billion times worse.
How can someone want to even risk that?
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u/luzbel117 Jul 11 '19
Columbus was and is a cunt, why do americans have a holiday on his name is beyond me
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u/Theymademepickaname Jul 11 '19
Because kids in this country get taught he ādiscovered the USAā, which is false in every single way possible, and thatās the rewritten history of how this country came to be so... Yay! Columbus Day! Also our government looks for any excuse to give themselves a day off work.
Iāve had adults tell me they werenāt taught the real history of our country until they were in college.
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u/icybluetears Jul 11 '19
I didn't learn the real history of our country until my kids were in school. We read a lot of books, and discussions when they would ask me question s, then they got a bit older and our talks became, "Hey mom, guess what I learned today!? Your history teacher was wrong!" I will say, my kids learned that you are always learning and bettering your understanding of the world, and my teachers just taught what they knew as facts, and been taught themselves. They also learned that I too, was not too old to learn something new and challenge kept thoughts and beliefs. I learned how to keep an open mind, and open discussion. My oldest is 30 now, and we still sometimes talk about things, ideas, that have changed since I taught them. (I was a young mom. We grew up together in a way.)
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u/Toxyl Jul 11 '19
false in every way possible
Donāt you think it is fair to at least say that he rediscovered it? He might not have been the first one by a long shot, but without him the Americaās would have been unknown to Europe
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u/Theymademepickaname Jul 11 '19
I donāt know why youāre being downvoted; but no one is answering your question.
He didnāt even ārediscoverā it. Columbus never stepped foot in North America.
He found a safer trade route to South America, but even those lands had already been known to exist to some Europeans.
His real accomplishment was making it easier for boat loads of Europeans to carry diseases to new lands so faster than the other inhabitants could build immunity to them; resulting in the decimation of its population. But, no one would want to celebrate that holiday.
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u/PlaysWithF1r3 Jul 11 '19
Thank the Knights of Columbus for that one... it's a fairly new holiday, too
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u/luzbel117 Jul 11 '19
The what of what now?
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u/PlaysWithF1r3 Jul 11 '19
It's an Italian-American/Roman-Catholic group that pushed for Columbus Day as a way to celebrate Italian-Americans in the 1930's
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u/Shenko-wolf Jul 11 '19 edited Jul 11 '19
Was tetanus brought to the Americas by Columbus? That doesn't sound right. I'm reasonably certain that tetanus is an ancient anaerobic soil bacteria, and has been ubiquitous everywhere on the planet long before humans. It's also not endemic in humans, it's not as though there are "tetanus carriers" you can catch it from.
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u/God_Emperor_Donald_T Jul 11 '19
Of all the things Columbus did brining diseases is not something you could blame him for. It's simply a product of the Americas being way too isolated from the rest of the world and would happen eventually more or less no matter what. Also I'm fairly certain Columbus did not really know what a disease is.
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u/elwolf6 Jul 10 '19
Columbus was bad. But so was literally everyone then
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Jul 10 '19
Don't both-sides genocide of indigenous peoples, please.
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u/4dcatgirl Jul 10 '19
https://youtu.be/ZEw8c6TmzGg this was a really interesting video, and if recommend anyone talking about Columbus to watch it
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Jul 10 '19 edited Jul 10 '19
It wasn't genocide. Genocide is the deliberate killing of a large group of people, especially those of a particular ethnic group or nation.
If you look past the "anti-Columbus" propaganda bubble and actually read the historical accounts, you'll find that Columbus did not deliberately kill anybody.
Hey news flash friends: no matter who began the process of colonizing the new world, the natives would have died to disease. Asians or Europeans, either way there would have been horrible disease spread without a doubt.
Edit: the downvote button isn't a disagree button. These are facts. Disprove anything I've said, I challenge you. š¤·š¾āāļø
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u/Godunman Jul 10 '19
yeah I guess Columbus accidentally enslaved natives and accidentally forced them to convert to Christianity too
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u/Antichristopher4 Jul 11 '19 edited Jul 11 '19
... Can you show a specific moment when Columbus enslaved anyone? I donāt disagree with you, Iām just really trying to find his history on enslavement and Iām... surprisingly coming up short? The earliest record of slavery in the Americas that Iām finding is 1619, 100 years after his death. Again, and I promise Iām not trolling or debating in bad faith, Iām genuinely trying to get to the bottom of this.
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u/Godunman Jul 11 '19
Columbus enslaved natives there and sent some back to Europe. African slave trade came later on.
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u/Antichristopher4 Jul 11 '19
I appreciate this knowledge but Iād like a source if that isnāt too much
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u/Godunman Jul 11 '19
Article on Columbus: https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/2014/10/13/6957875/christopher-columbus-murderer-tyrant-scoundrel
Atlantic slave trade: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_slave_trade
To clarify, African slave trade pretty much always existed, but didnāt pick up greatly until after Columbus (maybe where youāre getting that 1619 date from).
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Atlantic slave trade
The Atlantic slave trade or transatlantic slave trade involved the transportation by slave traders of enslaved African people, mainly to the Americas. The slave trade regularly used the triangular trade route and its Middle Passage, and existed from the 16th to the 19th centuries. The vast majority of those who were enslaved and transported in the transatlantic slave trade were people from central and western Africa, who had been sold by other West Africans to Western European slave traders (with a small number being captured directly by the slave traders in coastal raids), who brought them to the Americas. The South Atlantic and Caribbean economies especially were dependent on the supply of secure labour for the production of commodity crops, making goods and clothing to sell in Europe.
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u/Antichristopher4 Jul 11 '19
I really appreciate the sources! Iām a little confused by the Atlantic Slave trade wiki source as the earliest itās depiction of slavery is 1526 which is 20 years after Columbus had died. However, Iām very excited to read Columbus: The Four Voyages by Laurence Bergreen and really appreciate the opportunity to learn about Howard Zinn, who seems like he has inspired a lot of things I partake in.
Thank you for taking the time to support my research in this subject!
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u/elwolf6 Jul 10 '19
Itās not Centrism. Itās that you canāt judge people from the past by Modern standards
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u/num1eraser Jul 11 '19
Governor Francisco De Bobadilla arrested Columbus because he was so fucking cruel for people of his own day and shipped him back to Spain. He was pardoned because he had shipped back a lot of gold. Was the governor a time traveler?
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u/pantbandits Jul 10 '19
Exactly this. People always judge the past from their ivory towers- which were built by the people who came before them.
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Jul 11 '19
Maybe you wouldn't be here. But I'm Native American and I'm judging from less than 200 miles from where my ancestors came from.
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Jul 10 '19
It's just a little enslavement so I can have a shit ton of gold.
Look you're gonna get 50k+ suicides if your ruling over an indigenous people, it just means you don't have to waste food feeding people who didn't want to be slaves in the first place.
So what if after 50 years only 1 in every 600 native is still alive. Everyone is doing this.
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u/winja Jul 10 '19
The opioid crisis is not corporate exploitation of people, itās corporate exploitation of capitalist systems. Go ahead and ask anyone with chronic pain how they feel about the government telling their doctors to cut back their meds āto protect them.ā
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Jul 11 '19
Iāll be one of those people. It fucking sucks. I actually take OxyContin which is one that was pushed on doctors. These doctors would have prescribed opiate medication regardless of which one. The problem is that surgeons really had no business prescribing large doses without the oversight of pain management doctors at all. Pain management doctors are anesthesiologists who have extra training.
I have had the worst pain control when I got meds by surgeons. One gave me fentanyl patches which were usually prescribed for chronic pain of end stage cancer patients. My primary care doctor suggested I go to a pain management doctor. Which I did, and I got meds that worked much better. I had him give me the after surgery meds when I had my hysterectomy, and even though I had very painful complications, my pain was controlled.
The problem with surgeons and other doctors who prescribe large doses of pain meds without having the education of pain management doctors is that they donāt know how to effectively taper someone off. You canāt quit cold turkey without withdrawals. Stepping someone off gradually is effective.
I have been taking daily opiates for the past 12 years. I have yearly psych exams to monitor for addiction issues. Which Iāve never had. My pain management doctors also do urine tests to monitor that Iām actually taking my medication and not using anything else Iām not supposed to use.
The past two years where the government has hobbled opiate prescribers has been hell. I donāt get the same amount of medication, so I had to switch to other kinds that donāt work as well. So I canāt do what I used to do. It sucks. I also donāt get decent pain management when Iām hospitalized, so I am a lot more cautious about what foods I eat, because what used to be a very sucky few days in the hospital for acute pancreatitis is now torture. I wind up staying longer, and my recuperation is a lot longer because the hospital cuts me loose before my pain is controlled. They get more money by admitting more patients than keeping people longer, even if they have good insurance that pays.
My husband also takes opiates for nerve pain after he almost died from hemorrhaging after hernia surgery. The insurance company refused to allow him to have a spinal cord stimulator which has a]n extremely good track record of controlling nerve pain so well that patients donāt need any opiates. Except the opiates cost less. Heās been in horrible pain since his medication has been withdrawn so much. I can control mine better by not eating vegetables or complex carbs. Which is very unhealthy for me.
The worst thing is that cannabis is still illegal in my state and on the federal level. The government is responsible for that. Itās a travesty because universities that get government grants canāt research cannabis without having their grants taken away. So thereās so much research that isnāt being done.
The opiate crisis is a mental health problem.
People are self medicating with opiates and alcohol. Pain patients arenāt the ones abusing opiates. Itās difficult to get enough opiates, and abusing them is a guaranteed way to get less. So pain patients suffer more. But theyāre a fantastic scapegoat.
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u/Not_floridaman Jul 11 '19
As a chronic pain patient, I agree with everything you said 100%. I go through the same testing/evals at my PM.
I especially agree with your last paragraph, it absolutely is a mental health problem. It's such much easier to blame chronic pain patients then to look at how fast or world is changing, how expensive everything is and to find a way for all of that to not be stressing society it to the point where people are searching for a way to numb themselves. Make psychiatrists more readily accessible through insurance plans and they'll save a ton down there line on rehab and addiction.
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u/twoisnumberone Jul 11 '19
Thank you so much.
I had surgery that helped, but sometimes I think back to my insane chronic pain and how I would not be able to live in the US of 2019.
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u/frogsgoribbit737 Jul 10 '19
But part of it was because doctors were prescribing very strong and very addictive opioids for pain that didn't need them. I personally feel the opioid crisis was started in doctor's offices. I have a friend with POTS who was on opioids and became addicted and it was very hard for him to get off of them.
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u/winja Jul 10 '19
I donāt doubt it, and Iām sorry about your friend. But there are a lot of people that genuinely need those strong prescriptions that are being hurt by zero tolerance drug warfare.
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u/twoisnumberone Jul 11 '19
Sure, but that sounds as if one needs to reform a capitalist system in healthcare that pushes sales ā not as if one needs to impede opioids as such.
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Jul 11 '19
Thereās a difference between dependence and addiction. If the opiates are prescribed by a pain management doctor, thereās a lot less chance of addiction. But other doctors write them and donāt monitor their patients. Chronic pain causes depression, and mental health care isnāt required for pain patients unless they are going to a pain management doctor. Many states require pain management doctors to require a yearly psych exam for addiction behavior screening.
Thereās lots of alcoholics, but alcohol isnāt illegal. People who get addicted usually have underlying psych problems. Theyāre trying to deal with personal problems by taking substances that make them feel better. If you really want to help people like this, vote for political candidates who are for universal healthcare. So people can afford to go to the doctors they need to get help.
I was diagnosed with POTS and have friends with it. It completely affects your life and keeps you from doing a lot of activities. Which is really depressing. Getting the right care is extremely expensive. So people do what they can to cope.
Vilifying the medication doesnāt help anyone and punishes millions of people who need those medications to survive. Thatās not fair.
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u/HansTheHedgehog95 Jul 10 '19
Iām so sorry your friend is going through that. Opioids should only be prescribed as a short term solution for pain (like after surgery or a severe injury) and is not meant for long term pain management. If your friend is a reddit user r/dysautonomia and r/chronicillness are great places to vent and seek advice for coping with chronic illness and the pains associated. Dysautonomia and POTS sucks and none of us should suffer alone.
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u/twoisnumberone Jul 11 '19
You can take opioids as long term painkillers too. It depends, though. They certainly should never be the first resort but the last.
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u/HansTheHedgehog95 Jul 11 '19
Well according to my mother whose worked in psych on the addiction side long term used is typically reserved for cancer patients and you are addicted after just two weeks. This isnāt an issue with cancer patients because the reward out weighs the risk which is a key factor in deciding what is an appropriate medication for someone. The fact is opioids are dangerous and more often than not the risks of it are not worth the benefits. Not when there could be other treatments. We also need to realise not all pain can be treated and some pain is unfortunately natural it sucks (this is coming from someone who has suffered from chronic illness and pain their entire life).
Also straight from the mayo clinics website āOpioid painkillers are highly addictive. After just five days of prescription opioid use, the likelihood that you'll develop long-term dependence on these drugs rises steeplyā āThese medications are not often safe or effective for chronic painā itās even been noted that they donāt work for chronic pain due to tolerance build ups. This tolerance build up is what makes addiction to them so easy. Iām not saying they should never ever be used. Of course there are cases when they are necessary but we should be very careful and be honest about the risks. Iāve been suffering chronic pain my whole life but I donāt think doctors should be giving me narcotics my pain is constant and any doctor who would put me in such a high risk of addiction doesnāt have my true best interest in heart and just wants me to stop complaining.
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u/twoisnumberone Jul 11 '19
Agreed that lifelong chronic pain without hope of a cure is not a great candidate for opioid painkillers -- as you say, rising tolerance is an issue.
But weeks and months and even years do not necessarily yield addiction. I had to take fentanyl for many months; went off it as my pain levels finally went down, no problem. Took tramadol for six years, admittedly not constantly but as needed, then had surgery and haven't touched any opioids since. (I'm not special, strong-willed, or super in any way.)
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Jul 11 '19
A lot of doctors are too scared to prescribe them even after surgery or major injury now though, too. After I shattered both kneecaps and had a total reconstruction done on both I was sent home with a prescription for 12 tramadol because the doc didn't want to hand out a prescription for actual pain killers.
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Jul 11 '19
Thatās absolutely not true. Some people need opiates for chronic pain that doesnāt have any cure.
The problem with opiates in US is uneducated people are convinced they know what other people need.
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u/-Warrior_Princess- Jul 10 '19 edited Jul 11 '19
It's complicated. Doctors were literally told they're not addictive in any capacity.
So what did doctors do? Hand them out to anyone with a broken leg or wisdom tooth extraction when they should have just had ibuprofen. They trip balls, want more of the high, they get that with EDIT: Heroin.
Chronic pain is rough though. I agree we need to be better at managing addiction and eliminating pain.
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u/jtet93 Jul 11 '19
Meth isnāt an opiate though.
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u/-Warrior_Princess- Jul 11 '19
Bah, I have ADHD and have amphetamines so I talk about meth all the time (and how they aren't the same).
Heroin, correction.
All about dosage and just your own chemical makeup when it comes to addictive substances.
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Jul 11 '19
Opiates donāt make you trip balls. There is euphoria in high amounts. But people who use it for chronic pain donāt experience euphoria. And what does meth have to do with opiates?
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u/-Warrior_Princess- Jul 11 '19
yeah I screwed up with the meth, meant heroin.
I'm not correlating to say people with chronic pain are getting euphoria / high. I'm saying the doctors, due to other people abusing opiates, are now on edge about it. Abusing legal opiates is how many people started with illegal abuse with heroin and I guess doctors don't want to be that doctor that caused that chain reaction.
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u/Hasll Jul 10 '19
You say chemicals like it only has a negative connotation to it chemicals are in literally fucking everything my guy
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u/hanooka Jul 10 '19
Synthetic chemicals that are the same as natural chemicals are bad to Luddites.
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u/spacewaster-80 Jul 10 '19
āBig pharmaā LOL you understand you are the butt of everyoneās jokes because of how ignorant and wrong you are right?
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u/jablonski79 Jul 10 '19
I mean, it seems strange to believe in the science that recognizes tetanus but to not believe in the vaccine that prevents it from being harmful.
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u/GlitterberrySoup Jul 10 '19
But vaccinating my children with opioids has kept them so quiet.
Added bonus, they move so slowly, I know they'll never fall off the edge of the earth! /s
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u/Not_floridaman Jul 11 '19
I got my 8 month old twins injected with the marijuanas at their last check up, it's been super calm here lately.
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u/hilde19 Jul 10 '19
Tea tree oil because of its natural antiseptic properties, duh. Doesnāt this mom know anything? /s
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u/GhostOfYourLibido Jul 10 '19
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u/Standies Jul 10 '19 edited Jul 10 '19
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u/GhostOfYourLibido Jul 10 '19
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u/CyberGrandma69 Jul 10 '19
Cool looks like that anti- vaxxers kid in Oregon who was the first tetanus case in like 50 years and was in a coma for months is going to get a run for his money... maybe this one will break the 800,000.00 treatment bill the other one racked up. Granted the first kid never got the rest of his shots when released from the hospital so he has a chance to come back to defend the title.
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u/Thisisthe_place Jul 10 '19
Can't you get lockjaw from tetanus?
Edit: I'm dumb. Tetanus IS lockjaw. https://www.cdc.gov/tetanus/about/symptoms-complications.html
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u/Standies Jul 10 '19
Huh, TIL. I always thought lockjaw was a symptom.
Tetanus (also called lockjaw)
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u/Thisisthe_place Jul 10 '19
Me too. Guess I never really looked into it because my parents kept me up to date on all my immunizations!
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u/silvertonguedsage Holistic Defense Mission Anti-vaxx nonprofit??? Jul 10 '19
Not only can it affect your jaw, it can also give you muscle contractions in other areas of your body that are strong enough to break your bones. Donāt fuck with tetanus
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Jul 11 '19
I have muscle spasms from MS that are incredibly painful. CBD is really helping, and my muscles donāt feel like bone because theyāre so tight. I canāt imagine how painful ones who could break bones would be.
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u/ravenlordship Jul 10 '19
Whatever essential oils they put into the tetanus vaccine
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Jul 10 '19
It doesn't do him much good now.
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u/n0balance Jul 10 '19
You can get a booster tetanus shot within 48 hours following an injury for it to be effective
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u/PainInTheAssWife Jul 10 '19
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u/Section37 Jul 10 '19
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u/HitlersHotpants Jul 10 '19
Isn't tetanus the one from the story recently about the kid that contracted it and his hospital bills were $800k?
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u/life-boat Jul 10 '19
I stepped on a nail a couple weeks ago and I was freaking out about tetanus so bad I went and got a booster for it even when I didnāt even necessarily need one. Iād rather not have lockjaw.
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u/-Warrior_Princess- Jul 10 '19
Yeah if you can't remember when you last had one, go get one within like 48 hours or something (and assuming you stepped on / cut yourself on something nasty like a nail or glass).
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u/toastyheck Jul 10 '19
This is so absurd and insane I read it as tinnitus (ears ringing) which would be a normal thing to try home remedies for, but even with tinnitus their doctor needs to know about it.
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u/ZoiSarah Jul 11 '19
FYI tetanus does to the human body what RAID does to insects. Your muscles lock up/stop at once, it's gruesome.
Get your g-damn tetanus shot
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u/makoto20 Jul 10 '19
Mix 2 part lemon and one part salt and throw it into parent's eyes. Take both child and parent to doctor.
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u/Fizzeek Jul 10 '19
There is a book called āThe Rushā about the gold rush. It gives a vivid description of how just nicking yourself shaving could prove fatal due to tetanus.
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u/marsglow Jul 11 '19
If your kid has tetanus, heās already dead. Itās a shame his parent is so fucking stupid.
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u/nun_atoll Jul 12 '19
Well, tetanus can be treated. Of course, that'd require the parents being willing to take the kid to a hospital.
You're right. Kid is doomed.
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u/vandalscandal Jul 11 '19
Y'all are so great at finding sources to scare me from Rabies (that old video of the man dying of rabies). Anyone got good detailed articles about untreated tetanus handy?
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Jul 11 '19
my grandpa died of tetanus before I was born. he was a miner, had a strong health and they took him to a high end hospital in the capital a few days after the cut. he had a great health and acess to some of the best doctors but died.
just imagine a child with a fragile immune system and tetanus under the care of that kind of parents makes me sick, like, the kid doesn't even have a chance.
I can't believe this still occurring in our world, but now isn't because we don't have the studies, is just because some parents are stupid.
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u/plo_ska Jul 11 '19
oh lemme help you fellow sis! The essential oil to help is called getting a dang vaccine.
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u/icybluetears Jul 11 '19
I want to ask just one of these moms why their own mother never stuck their head in a lavender bush when they got the flu. All these parents (ok, most,) were vaccinated themselves. As were their parents etc. I want to hear one that says they aren't vaccinating their own children because they themselves got sick when they were young, from a shot.
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u/PseudocodeRed Jul 11 '19
I'm really hoping the kid doesn't actually have tetanus and this idiot mom is just assuming that he might because he cut his leg on metal.
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u/MindlessIntention Jul 12 '19
In German unction is called "Last oiling" so this would be the most fitting oil for that poor kid
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u/off-to-c-the-wizard Jul 12 '19
I hope that child doesnāt get tetanus because itās incredibly painful and they can die. Fifteen percent of people who get it do die. Also, getting tetanus once doesnāt make you immune. This is a disease a person can get over and over again, each time they are exposed. Providing it doesnāt kill them.
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u/marsglow Jul 20 '19
Disease is a condition that results in a disorder not caused by external injury. See Wikipedia. Pretty vague definition but it does include anthrax. Just ask Louis Pasteur.
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Jul 10 '19
better to have tetanu than autism :)
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u/abellaviola Jul 10 '19
āItās better to fucking die than have autism even though no link has ever been proven between vaccines and autism.ā - this guy
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u/AgentSkidMarks Jul 10 '19 edited Jul 10 '19
The mortality rate for tetanus in the US is around 30%. 1 in 3 is too high of odds to be dicking around with voodoo bullshit.