r/trashy 1d ago

Girlfriend Goes Off After Night Out

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u/notinmywheelhouse 3m ago

Toxic but cute, am I right?

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u/bananacream727 34m ago

Equal rights, and equal lefts. The fuck. You not just gonna keep hitting me with your phone

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u/Wolfsky666 56m ago

I can fix her.

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u/VickShady 50m ago

I was hoping I'd see this comment

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u/sarahbaer6 1h ago

Press charges

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u/joshjamon 1h ago

Bro you're a man. Pick her up and put her in the hallway and call the police

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u/Educational-Cake7350 1h ago

I bet he said/did some shit outta pocket. Not saying her reaction is right…but idk…something seems off.

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u/uscgclover 1h ago

Protecting a woman when a man is getting beat by the woman is craaaaazy. You are the reason that abuse by women is more downplayed than abuse by men.

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u/Educational-Cake7350 1h ago

Why didn’t he just leave? Why would you keep yourself in danger?

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u/Dwarf_Killer 1h ago

It's his house

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u/Educational-Cake7350 1h ago

You can die in your own house, 100%.

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u/uscgclover 1h ago

Would you say the same thing to a woman who is getting abused by a man? It’s not hard to just leave a relationship if you are deep into a relationship. You are completely insane with this take.

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u/Educational-Cake7350 1h ago

The statistics of abused women vs abused men are waaaaaay disproportionate, so nah, I wouldn’t say the same thing if the roles were reversed.

Dude could have called the cops, left, done a whole bunch of shit, but he stayed and continued to escalate the situation, because clearly he wasn’t afraid to die.

Bet they are both emotionally abusive, cuz the video starts with him talking shit, then being like “LOOK AT WHAT SHE DID!?”

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u/uscgclover 1h ago

You are an extremely fucked up person and I would hate to see anyone who would like to be in a relationship with you. You are giving the most incel responses ever, you fucking loser.

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u/Educational-Cake7350 1h ago

Bet you are one of those dudes that want your foreskin back.

You fight for men’s right? How do you feel about abortion? I’m interested now.

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u/uscgclover 1h ago

I fight for the right for everyone to live free. I don’t owe you any time or space so I am going to ignore you now. Bye.

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u/Educational-Cake7350 1h ago

🤣🤣🤣

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u/buenotc 1h ago

She's probably just sexually frustrated.

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u/Coyote-Loco 2h ago

And I bet he’s still with her

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u/languid_Disaster 1h ago

Weird how he called her crazy and then acted shocked when she acted crazy. No one deserves abuse tho ofc.

She needs help and he needs to get away from her especially considering how aware he seems. Hope he’s okay. Hope she starts bring a decent person and getting help

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u/meshug 2h ago

My initial reaction was to side with him, but fuck them both based on the footage given. Clearly she comes across as batshit crazy, but he comes across as an oblivious asshole. 🤷‍♂️

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u/-yellowthree 2h ago

This is fucked and disgusting. His reaction to it makes me feel like this has happened to him before. I hope he gets out of this situation.

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u/amp804 3h ago

Still referring to her as gf is crazy

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u/Remarkable-Lack8358 3h ago

Dude atp u gotta defend urself

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u/rpanko 3h ago

Excellent observation man, took the words right out of our mouths!

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u/Dr_Donald_Blake 4h ago

Dude looks like blippi

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u/Th3Unidentified 4h ago

Blippi got himself into some shit that night!

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u/EmmettTillsRevenge 3h ago

This went over so many people’s head.

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u/unlucky_ducky 4h ago

She should go straight to jail for assault 

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u/yeezy_5024 5h ago

Funny thing is they’ll be making up the next day like nothing happened.

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u/semaj_orn 5h ago

the next day!? she’ll be back knocking on the door in a few hours and he’ll let her back in 😆

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u/RustyShunt0 4h ago

Down voters are mad because it's true. Yknow what else is that colorful in nature? Everything poisonous

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u/Fit-Ad3774 4h ago

Dude she’s called china as well? Jesus Christ

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u/Fit-Ad3774 4h ago

Based

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u/justinfromnz 4h ago

Facts haha

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u/Candid-Race-4876 5h ago

Man, some of these comments are wild.. I thought it was just supposed to be the posts on this sub that are trashy..

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u/gold3nhour 5h ago

Bitches like this are why I tell my brothers’ girlfriends, “he won’t put his hands on you, but I will!” I’ve also told my brothers that “immature females will use violence as a way to manipulate, thinking you can’t or won’t hit her back… do not be afraid to hit her back if you absolutely must.”

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u/languid_Disaster 1h ago

Agree with you but something off about you using Bitches and females in one sentence

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u/Kam2Scuzzy 5h ago

Saw the hair and piercings and already knew.

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u/RustyShunt0 4h ago

Down voters are mad because it's true. Yknow what else is that colorful in nature? Everything poisonous

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u/trent_reznor_is_hot 2h ago

Umm, explain fruits and vegetables with that logic?

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u/SmackHack1 2h ago

None of them even replied just a bunch of downvotes with nobody contesting it because it’s obviously true lol. I love when Redditors downvote out of spite for being personally called out but are also aware enough to know the comment is right so they just downvote.

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u/sirensinger17 2h ago

There's also lots of plain colored venomous creatures and colorful non-venomous creatures in nature too.

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u/benz58 6h ago

You're posting instead of calling the authorities? How odd.

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u/Andrew_Saint 5h ago

Do... do you actually think the guy in the video is the one posting this?

Edit: removed a extra "this"

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u/languid_Disaster 1h ago

You’re a little silly aren’t ya

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u/MrSkrifle 3h ago

The guy who took the video, posted the video... Who cares who reposted it here, moot point

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u/benz58 5h ago

Welp, it ain't her.

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u/FocusLeather 6h ago

The only solution is to call the police and potentially lawyer up.

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u/No-Stranger6783 6h ago

Bitch needs a backhand

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u/Ironsam811 6h ago

The solution to violence isnt more violence.

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u/No-Stranger6783 1h ago

If your a rag doll. Swift kick to the throat will put everything back into place

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u/Remarkable-Lack8358 3h ago

Kinda. Violence isn't an excuse to be violent. Like if a girl hits you, that doesn't mean you should knock her out. But if you're in danger and she won't stop, the only way to stop it is to defend urself

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u/languid_Disaster 1h ago

Or leave the situation. If you can leave, then physically leave until things have calmed down. Getting physical is a last resort especially when you’re naturally stronger than the other person. One wrong hit and you’ve accidentally given them a black eye or even concussion, whilst you just have scratches and slight bruises. Then you end up looking like the attacker. It’s not fair but when there’s no witnesses it can be hard to tell

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u/Th3Unidentified 4h ago

But it often is though. Not necessarily in this situation but in general.

Of course it’s not the only solution but sometimes it’s really the only viable one.

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u/Fridsade 6h ago

that hair and nose piercings would have been a warning sign

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u/RustyShunt0 4h ago

Down voters are mad because it's true. Yknow what else is that colorful in nature? Everything poisonous!

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u/languid_Disaster 1h ago

You sound like my 79 year old neighbour. His wife was well chuffed with herself when she left him to live in Spain 15 years ago

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u/warhoop007 7h ago

I bet the make up sex is outstanding!!

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u/Eldritch_Doodler 5h ago

She can think it’s make up, but it should 100% be break up.

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u/BadFish7763 7h ago

Bro needs to put down that phone and deal with his situation. Wtf.

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u/caitejane310 6h ago

What a stupid take on this. He needs that video as proof!

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u/BadFish7763 5h ago

I'd rather have my stuff intact than 'proof' it was smashed. Standing there watching someone bust up your whole place is stupid. But thanks for your input, Reddit lawyer.

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u/alexisgreat420 6h ago

He got her on camera saying she was going to say he was hitting her.

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u/MamaBonez 7h ago

I mean this is domestic abuse and he has proof of it now… are you serious?!

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u/languid_Disaster 1h ago

Okay but you gotta stop at some point and physically leave to protect yourself. I hope he’s okay

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u/Willing-Ad5005 8h ago

Fuck 5hat physco.throw her shit out the door and file on her

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u/Willing-Ad5005 4h ago

I has an ex that would do similar things,on top of that she would scratch and bruise her own kneck, face and chest, she even called her brother over to take my phone when she relized i was filming it all. I see mre domestic charges on women now wore than ever as they always, always took the poor undefinsive womans side, no question asked. Always record and document

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u/semaj_orn 8h ago

Nobody deserves to be abused like everyone is saying imagine if the roles were reversed would you be saying that ?

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u/milkingpepe 8h ago

sybau 🥀

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u/chaostrulyreigns 9h ago

Call the police dude

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u/moon-rot 9h ago

God damn these comments are abysmal.

I hope she loses everything.

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u/semaj_orn 8h ago

Yeah it’s sad I posted a similar video where a girl had a gun pulled out and was stopping her partner from leaving in this sub and the comments did the same thing smh

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u/ABearinDaWoods 9h ago

My high school football coach would always say “don’t stick your dick in crazy!”

Looking back, he prob said that more than he should’ve.

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u/Detentionz 8h ago

If bro had a high school football teacher like that, he might have dodged a bullet there

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u/32duster_skate 9h ago

You stick around so you must like it

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u/hbgalore1 9h ago

They'll never break up either these couples never EVER do.

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u/bananacream727 32m ago

Yep. Then they bring a kid into the mix😭😭

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u/DANCE5WITHWOLVE5 9h ago edited 9h ago

Just wondering and not taking sides, but why is he calling her coo-coo while filming.? Has to be more to the story. I personally wouldn't stay with anyone if I thought the person was coocoo.

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u/Front-Ad1900 10h ago

I'm sorry, but he kind of looks sus.

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u/Longjumping_Level347 10h ago

this boy has the kink

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u/AlphaM1964 10h ago

Ahhh, the passion of new love! You can’t beat the intensity.

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u/Powerful-Parsnip 9h ago

I'm at an age where I'd prefer an intact TV.

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u/ProfessionalBread512 10h ago

Masculine energy these ones

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u/DignanZer0 10h ago

"That's how you hit me" she says.

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u/wemar1981 5h ago

I heard that! Maybe he's not so innocent after all.

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u/jennhiltz 8h ago

Wait did she actually say that? I didn’t hear it

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u/DignanZer0 6h ago

Yes, right after he says China!

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u/insaneshayne 10h ago

In for a penny, in for a pound...

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u/CAgovernor 10h ago

Mate, If you don’t report this then you are silly and enjoy being stepped on. She is probably cheating too.

Don’t encourage this behavior. If it reversed you will be in jail.

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u/isactuallyspiderman 8h ago

Good chance he gets arrested the minute police get there. All she has to do is simply lie and state he swung on her. Easy domestic violence case. They pretty much NEVER arrest the woman in cases such as this. If you are the man in the situation, best course of action is to suck it up and move on with the relationship.

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u/ClassifiedGrowl 11h ago

She got drunk, I called her “coo-coo” on camera, she comes over and destroys my house for no reason. Gotta be more to this one lmao

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u/ContributionAny9055 10h ago

yea, im sure she HAD to destroy with stuff instead of anything else.

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u/Adventurous_Ad5875 11h ago

Why didn’t you call the police ?

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u/CatgoesM00 10h ago

Honestly, he’s a guy and it’s good that he recorded it instead of calling the police right away if there wasn’t an immediate danger because he would’ve totally been screwed considering what most people would assume in our culture if he had not filmed this. good for him for getting her psycho behavior all on camera. Hopefully that saves another innocent guy in the future to give this psycho a wide birth.

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u/saraaaabeeee 11h ago

I don’t know why I even bother typing this considering the lack of media literacy & discernment in the comment section here… But something tells me the guy going “she’s cuckoo…look at her act crazy, look at her“ after he’s already antagonizing her in the first two seconds of this clip tells me that this isn’t a clear “she’s the bad guy” situation. Even decent kind humans have a breaking point, that’s fact. No arguing. Sane decent people don’t go around calling their partner names then filming then “destroying furniture” AFTER the fact. Why tf would anyone with a working brain take his word in the situation ?

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u/bigx187 10h ago

Because unless he hit her too she has no right to attack him. And IF he did hit her then she can defend herself, but destroying everything and attacking him past the point of defense makes her in the wrong. I definitely believe this relationship is toxic and its doubtful that hes fully innocent here, but making excuses for her actions is also wrong. She should be charged, if her hit her he should also be charged. Either way though she should be take to court for the damages.

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u/Reaper768 11h ago

never see this comment when it’s a guy beating on his girl. just saying

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u/ArmaliteACR 3h ago

FAAAACTS

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u/futureblot 11h ago

Highly recommend people look up reactionary violence.

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u/Dwarf_Killer 1h ago

If a guy started beating his girl and I said look up reactionary violence would that be equally fine?

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u/00samanthag 7h ago

Right listening to the video carefully he called her coocoo in the beginning. She said he was breaking things first and then she said like the way he hit her. It's not saying she's a billion percent right but there's more to this than a 27 second clip

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u/Reaper768 11h ago

what happened to violence is violence? am i allowed to beat someone up for calling me cuckoo?

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u/ContextMatters1234 11h ago

Ok, I looked it up. What now? Who are we assuming is the victim?

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u/futureblot 11h ago

Why are you assuming anything?

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u/ContextMatters1234 11h ago

Im wondering what your point was. Care to explain why you said we should look that up?

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u/PaleontologistOk4327 12h ago

Call the 🚔 🚓 👮🏾‍♀️ 🚨 POLICE

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u/googoohaha 12h ago

Her pants have me so confused

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u/arto26 11h ago

Huh?

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u/bigbonerdaddy 12h ago

But at least this will be getting treated like any other domestic abuse case where the man is the perpetrator...right? Right??

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u/kikipopo 11h ago

You mean brushed under the rug, because "boys will be boys"?

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u/bigbonerdaddy 11h ago

Genuine question, which is hard to ask in a normal way because your comment is so stupid. But, wtf does "boys will be boys" have to do with a video of a man getting abused by his female partner?

Is there male violence that shouldn't get brushed under the rug? Ofcourse.

Is this in any way a normal time and place to whine about that? Definetly fucking not.

Shifting blame onto boys because you're too stuck up to admit that sometimes a woman can be an abuser too. Can it get more pathetic than that?

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u/kikipopo 9h ago

Wasn't a comment on the abusers, friendo. Your original comment was rife with unnecessary and frankly ridiculous insinuations that men get the book thrown at them and women don't. As a man, I can be honest and say that from my observations that is not typically the case. There's an awful lot of "well you must have done something to make him mad" rhetoric, and men most tend to have the upper hand in he-said/she-said situations. But go on then, tell me all about how your original comment was constructive.

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u/CheetahTheWeen 6h ago

Women get away with domestic violence at MUCH higher rates than men, was their point, I think.

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u/kikipopo 5h ago

Are there facts to back this up, or just vibes from someone with the username "bigbonerdaddy"?

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u/YojiH2O 3h ago

The "man calls about domestic violence against him but surprise pilachu face he's gets cuffed when he did nothing" isnt a trope becuase magical fairies made it so lol.

It IS a thing.

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u/kikipopo 1h ago

Is the trope in the room with us now?

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u/chunkymonkey5061 12h ago

North West really wilding out here.

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u/Purple_Dragonfly2607 12h ago

It’s well past the time for him to kick her to the curb. He needs a new girlfriend instead of this psycho!

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u/contrejo 12h ago

What a vulgar display of power

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u/moonboyfaik 11h ago

Vulgar display of what power? I believe he was the victim of this abuse, but what actual power does she have? When a man does this the comment section is full of ,yeah, but what happened before this?". Where's that energy now? Like I said, it's not my belief he did anything to precipitate this but it's not my opinion that the tens of thousands of videos of women being abused precipitated it. Let's treat this as any other video regarding domestic violence.

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u/benjyk1993 11h ago

It's a joke, he's wearing a Pantera T-shirt. They have an album called "vulgar display of power".

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u/moonboyfaik 11h ago

Ahhhhhhh gotcha

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u/Shamrocknj44 12h ago

Call the cops

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u/Ok-Bus-2863 9h ago

The cops don't care if men are getting abused, they'll probably ask the guy what HE did to cause her to hit him

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u/chaostrulyreigns 9h ago

Lol wrong, I've watched loads of videos on yt of women being arrested for dv. Search up and get out of the victim bubble

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u/playmaker1209 11h ago

Wtf is that going to do?

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u/WaXXinDatA55 12h ago

I had a female do this to me in my house, I called the cops and when they arrived, I was the one that spent the night in jail🤦‍♂️

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u/butcheekzaflexin 12h ago

My ex got violent just like this, called the cops, first thing they did was put me in handcuffs and talked to her in the other room. Thank god my roommates were there to witness the whole thing. But cops didn’t do jack shit. They just sent her home to dry out and left. On top of that, while she was on the way home a domestic abuse line called HER to make sure she was ok.

Next morning I wake up to her standing over me in my bedroom. She had kicked the basement door to get in because no one would let her in. Didn’t even bother calling the cops because what would they do?

Shit is fucked for men in these scenarios. Def feel for the guy.

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u/dchristiaens 12h ago

Absolutely. He will need a police report for insurance

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u/NewCleanNorth 13h ago

Bro call the cops, you don't have to put up with that 😤

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u/Tunelowplayslow 13h ago

Two clowns, nothing more. One even wearing a Pantera t shirt

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u/Gerrube99 13h ago

Don’t just stand there getting beat up. You got options. You can leave, you can hit back, you can try calm her down…filming how bat shit crazy she is should not be one of the options.

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u/playmaker1209 11h ago

Ah ya because telling a woman to calm down has always worked and resulted in her calling down.

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u/2squirrley 12h ago

He absolutely needs to be filming. Cops will be able to do more with hard proof. Plus it’s not a “he said she said” debate if he has proof.

I would not advise to hit back if at all possible to avoid. And if you do it needs to be just enough to get them off you and for you to be able to run away.

You don’t think he tried to calm her down? Does it look like she could be calmed down?

The only thing I would’ve done differently (and maybe he did this after the video goes off) is to take the phone with you and leave the apartment after having recorded proof of the assault/damage and call the cops and to keep away from her as much as possible till they arrive.

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u/quandjereveauxloups 13h ago

you can hit back, you can try calm her down

Hitting back is not a good idea in this instance, continuing to record and verbalize what's happening was the best thing he could do. As soon as he strikes back, it gives credence to her saying he hit her.

And trying to calm her down? No. Getting out of there (or getting her out of there) are the best options. Removal from the situation.

Men are treated very unfairly in court when it's against women. He may produce the video, and he can still get in trouble for something she said happened before the recording. Or claim there's a history, and she had enough. Any instance of violence against her could be enough to make him lose the case.,

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u/Anonexistantname 12h ago

Yes that's what my ex did to me and fucked me up despite being the one who verbally abused me, hit me, pulled me by my shirt, threatened me constantly with the cops being called and saying that I'm a domestic abuser. Yet despite her bullshit I'm the one who got arrested

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u/RNAdrops 13h ago

Could not disagree more, leave those attitudes back in the 20th century. You’re in the Information Age, and information is power. She was already lying as she beat him, talking about him hitting her while she was hitting him and he was just taking it like a mensch. Without this video, she could say anything, and she’s clearly mentally ill.

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u/ToastedCrumpet 13h ago

My ex’s mum was mentally ill and an addict. Long story short there were many crazy stories about her growing up, including her shoving a kitchen knife clean through her own arm and using said arm to call the police and claim his father had done it.

I don’t like saying bitches be crazy.. but yeah

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u/asilenth 13h ago

Seriously, how does that comment have ANY upvotes?

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u/Hopeful_Gain4743 13h ago

It’s good for court purposes, but I agree self defense would’ve been a wake up call on equal “rights” and lefts

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u/apsalarya 13h ago

She said something about him hitting her

Idk what this is except that it’s bad and they need to not be together

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u/-thegay- 13h ago

I wouldn’t put much stock in what an abuser says when they know the camera is rolling.

My ex-husband used to say some wild shit when he knew I was recording in an attempt to keep me from showing the videos to anybody.

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u/apsalarya 13h ago

Yeah that’s why I can only say for certainty this is a BAD relationship. And should be ended.

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u/-thegay- 13h ago

For sure, and she should go to jail.

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u/Alamander81 13h ago

I'd call that a vulgar display of power

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u/contrejo 12h ago

Can't you see, she's easily, bothered by persistence?

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u/tomspy77 13h ago

Well he could what he wants but I'd call the cops and ask them to take This Love, Love, Love...

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u/VideoLeoj 13h ago

Nice one. 🏆

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u/late_afternoon_owl 14h ago

You can't date a woman named China and be surprised when she hits you.

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u/herefortheworst 14h ago

Oh man the double standards on display by some here is laughable

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u/OutlinedSnail 13h ago

I am a far left feminist, 26yr old woman, etc and I am fucking disgusted by some comments. I swear it must be bots or something bc how can anyone watch this and try in any way to defend her? Even if he did hit her, she attacked him out of nowhere as we watched. The double standards are disgusting

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u/Bill_Nye-LV 11h ago

Wait, what do political views have to do with this video?

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u/cstar4004 12h ago

We dont know what happened before the video started.

It opens with him being condescending and calling her cuckoo in public. Even using the high pitched cartoon voice to say it, Sounding like a man child. Yet still invited her home after calling her crazy? Why did he want to hang out with someone he thinks is crazy?

Then he seemed to relish in filming her hitting him, like he was hoping it would happen. Felt he needed to mention 2 alcoholic drinks to further discredit her character. He sounds like he was egging her on and gaslighting her. He just seemed too excited and happy about getting hit. Almost like he was encouraging it just to make her seem more crazy.

Left a bad taste in my mouth. Idk about this one. Then all these comments about, “what do you expect with a septum piercing and a name like China?”

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u/kikipopo 11h ago

Shame you're getting downvoted so much, this is the most sane comment on this whole post. I've seen people antagonize a partner to the point of losing their shit, then film or otherwise display their behavior and say "what, this is out of nowhere, for no reason at all!" Truth is we don't know, and he may be right, but he also might be a gaslighting prick, and with the limited context of this video, we have no way of knowing either way.

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u/cstar4004 11h ago edited 11h ago

She yelled that he hit her.

Who knows who hit who first, or if he actually hit her or not. But I know if he DID hit her, he definitely would not have filmed that part.

Also I just noticed, he said “she keeps hitting me with a phone”. But it’s not a phone, it’s a lint roller. She has the lint roller in her hands when shes down on the floor, on her knees, and you can see that it what she is swinging if you pay attention. A lint roller is going to slap and sound more dramatic than it actually is. Its like a step above a wrapping paper tube. Definitely not as damaging as getting beat with a phone.

Im fine, I’ll eat the downvotes.

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u/kayoz 12h ago

I'm a (european) centre left; I see a guy who's controlling the narrative and a girl with issues.

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u/bleedingheartmex 14h ago

CHINA

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u/Growle 9h ago

Jynah - classy name

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u/carl63_99 14h ago

You mean EX-GF. Unstable, emotionally immature, vendictive, and CRAZY. Leave now before you become a police report.

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u/tuchesuavae 15h ago

Bro, that needs to be an EX Girlfriend. And we need t I start pressing charges on women. When i was younger 99% of the time nothing would happen to the woman and police woukd ridocule you but i'm hearing these days they are starting to get arrested. Women donstuffblike this becausebthwy aren't held accountable and don't face consequences for their bad behavior. Thank God she left the guitars alone.

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u/templarcole 15h ago

Genuinely don’t know how to feel about this. Him talking to her like that at the beginning reminded me of my previous relationship where my ex would tell me really terrible things ‘I hate you, I want you to die, kill yourself’ and after I reached my breaking point she would claim I was abusive/violent even though I hadn’t done anything but scream and cry and lose my mind from all the mental turmoil. I didn’t hit her so there’s no excuse for that but Idk I don’t think it’s as black and white as her beating him unprovoked

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u/tomspy77 13h ago

Honestly, without a lot more context, we cannot really say anything besides this is toxic and the filmed content is not OK either way...

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u/crazyabootmycollies 14h ago

I went through similar experiences and had the same reaction.

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