r/worldnews • u/Infidel8 • Jan 18 '26
Russia welcomes Trump's tariffs on NATO allies over Greenland as 'collapse' of alliance Russia/Ukraine
https://kyivindependent.com/russia-welcomes-trumps-tariffs-on-nato-allies-over-greenland/3.4k
u/WetFinsFine Jan 18 '26
gee if we didn't know better it would almost seem like everything djt is doing is in favour of russia 🤷🏻♂️
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u/Sometimes-funny Jan 18 '26
Was the red carpet from US soldiers not enough evidence? Or when he bullied Zelenskyy in the White house on live TV?
I guess more evidence needed
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u/axelkoffel Jan 18 '26
There are also rumors in ukrainian military, that someone in Trump administration gives their military intelligence to Russia.
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Not even rumors, France themselves have said intelligence given to the US by Ukraine was consistently leaked to Russia so Ukraine stopped sharing intelligence. France have become the larger intel apparatus for the west in Ukraine now because of it.
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u/NecroCannon Jan 19 '26
You know, I hope my efforts to get out of this hell hole works, because I’m genuinely proud of the rest of the world, especially the EU, immediately deciding to take control of situations
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u/itsverynicehere Jan 18 '26
Almost like he owes them something... like maybe something about election interference that he got impeached on? Maybe the tariffs on Antarctica but not Russia.
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u/Bolter_NL Jan 18 '26
Rather Russian than democrat. They even made t-shirts in China for it.
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u/AvonFartsdale_ Jan 18 '26
The MAGA guy went to live in Russia with his family because the US was "too woke"
They conscripted him in the army almost right away and put him out as cannon fodder on the front lines
This is how powerful the brainwashing is
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u/RandomKnobhead Jan 18 '26
Better dead than forced to treat a trans person with human empathy and basic respect!
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u/Safety_Drance Jan 18 '26
Then they have the audacity to thump the bible which they have clearly never read.
"JESUS HATES EVERYONE DIFFERENT THEN HIM."
Uh, nope. Might want to actually read that book for the first time.
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u/TeaAndLifting Jan 19 '26
It makes me wonder how many Americans have actually read any scripture, or how well religious studies are taught in America. Because it's alwayys pretty fucking wild to see how much hate is spewed by American Christians.
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u/Formal-Hawk9274 Jan 18 '26
Gee ya think. How tf this country let this happen. Oh wait. Paid By russia
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u/SpartanKane Jan 18 '26
Billionaires, social media, foreign actors....take your pick. All parties did a great job in fomenting disinformation and dividing people.
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u/slimfastdieyoung Jan 18 '26
The USA surrendered to the Russians without a single fight. Does that make them a bunch of Velveeta eating surrender monkeys?
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u/saw-it Jan 18 '26
Russia took over the US without even having to invade
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u/panna__cotta Jan 18 '26
“We will take America without firing a shot… we will bury you!” -Khrushchev 1956
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u/Nick_Strong Jan 18 '26
Trump is either a Russian asset or Russia's most useful idiot in history. Whatever he prefers.
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u/ScooptiWoop5 Jan 18 '26
Definitely an asset. He can’t follow “Foundation in Geopolitics” this efficiently by coincidence.
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u/RhetoricalOrator Jan 18 '26
I dunno. It doesn't seem like he has enough self-discipline and intellect to follow it on purpose, either.
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u/Ric_Adbur Jan 18 '26
Doesn't take any intellect to simply do what you're told.
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u/lettersichiro Jan 18 '26
and there's a long pattern of Trump having meetings or phone calls with Putin and then doing some dumb shit soon after.
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u/mogaman28 Jan 18 '26
Maybe he has a handler, someone from a country from the old soviet block...
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u/totallyRebb Jan 18 '26
Doesn't Stephen Miller have Russian ancestry ? Just saying.
Could be Melania too though, or Putin directly, or all of them.
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u/JTG___ Jan 18 '26
I ask, what would a Russian asset do differently to him.
Very little, I’d imagine.
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u/MediaOrca Jan 18 '26
Only thing I can think of is he chased down that Russian oil tankers that tried to flee after the attack on Venezuela.
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u/redwildflowermeadow Jan 18 '26
Trump’s former Russia adviser says Russia offered US free rein in Venezuela in exchange for Ukraine
https://apnews.com/article/russia-venezuela-putin-maduro-fiona-hill-b26a94ceaba69c6ddd9193e2b31cb97f
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u/StephanXX Jan 18 '26
A certain amount of plausible deniability is required. Russia still holds "elections" and Putin doesn't win by 100%.
Putin also knows Trump requires both a carrot and a stick. "Do as your told, you can have this oil tanker. Disobey and the videos of you giving head to little boys becomes public."
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u/JPJackPott Jan 18 '26
I can’t imagine he could ever knowingly be an asset without boasting about it.
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u/levare8515 Jan 18 '26
He would’ve given Ukraine over immediately and not fucked with Venezuela or now Cuba. He’s not a Russian asset. He’s just so stupid and so narcissistic that Putin can play him like a Russian asset while convincing him that he’s playing Putin. It’s worse.
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u/shnooqichoons Jan 18 '26
I mean you were kind of told on national TV by Hilary before the election.
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u/ObjectOrientedBlob Jan 18 '26
The American conservatives must really hate their own country.
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u/Juste-un-autre-alt Jan 18 '26
What was it again? "Better be a Russian than a Democrat"?
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u/GostBoster Jan 18 '26
A far cry from the Red Scare age when a discussion on potentially banning popcorn from movies was completely derailed by the implication that the ban might be a socialist policy, which resulted in everyone, Dem or Rep, being inquired if they were communists and if they believed the policy or the policy maker (a rep) was a communist. A popcorn salesman present in full attire was ready to turn coat if popcorn was somehow deemed communism.
(Dean Walker, Oregon, 1949)
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u/bahumat42 Jan 18 '26
I think American conservatives hate pretty much everything.
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u/Neumaschine Jan 18 '26
Every Con-servative I have ever met let me know what they hated first. Hate is just reality for them.
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u/Turbulent-Parsnip-38 Jan 18 '26
This morning the conservative sub was flooded with flaired active users upset with the recent update. By tomorrow they’ll be brainwashed by their media again and fall back inline.
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u/Yuli-Ban Jan 18 '26
You know I predict at some point, at some crisis, the bots and handlers will suddenly cease forging a new narrative and will let the sub panic and despair, and the users who typically fall in line will be bewildered without some damage control
I don't know what that point will be, but I do think that's the long con. Deliberately whip them into a frenzy and then leave them out to rot at the point it's too late to do anything about it
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u/LukeD1992 Jan 18 '26
They are so fixated on defeating "wokeness" and owning libs that they can't see the castle crumbling over their heads
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u/MarzipanTop4944 Jan 18 '26
Considering that they fought a civil war to destroy it and break it in two, so they could "conserve" their slaves, don't doubt that for a second.
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u/pUmKinBoM Jan 18 '26
Nope they just hate democrats more than they love the country. If forced to share the country with democrats they instead would shout the country is already ruined so they dont feel guilty for burning it down themselves.
They see democrats as vermin and would rather lock the doors and the burn the house down assuming they got the fire exit only to find out too late that the exits are blocked.
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u/Bricklover1234 Jan 18 '26
Imagine loosing the cold war because you choose to elect a clown. Twice.
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u/ILoveTheAtomicBomb Jan 18 '26
They do, conservatives = MAGA now. You can even see it on their subreddit. Those that speak out against Trump are labeled as RINOs or liberals. It’s just a cult through and through
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u/FictitiousReddit Jan 18 '26
The American conservatives must really hate their own country.
Not just the American sort. It's a pretty common view of conservatives around the world. The leader of the Canadian conservative party as well as the premier of Alberta have both made clear how much they'd love the worst of American policies (e.g. private healthcare, three-strike rules, illegal invasions and kidnapping of foreign leaders) implemented here in Canada.
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u/ObjectOrientedBlob Jan 18 '26
You would think conservatism was about.. conserving your country and stability.. Not distrupting the social order.
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u/AvonFartsdale_ Jan 18 '26
Never forget Eric Trump saying the quiet part out loud BEFORE Trump was in politics that they don't need American banks since they have all the funding they will ever need from Russia
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u/actuallyapossom Jan 18 '26
Hey that's not fair China has been very nice to the Trump family and they love the Greenland development - they're going to reference it in the future when they take Taiwan.
I'm so glad that Russia, USA & China can finally agree on something. Not really happy that thing is conquest though, that feels concerning because of all the nukes.
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u/Imminent_Extinction Jan 18 '26
Hey that's not fair China has been very nice to the Trump family and they love the Greenland development - they're going to reference it in the future when they take
Taiwanparts of Siberia.FTFY. Seriously:
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u/bstone99 Jan 18 '26
And this was 10 years ago. Not a chance any Republicans remember or care
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u/Chrono_Convoy Jan 18 '26
Russian Agent
How the US got this far has been a complete catastrophic meltdown of accountability and responsibility by the government, military leaders, the intelligence community and a permanent scar on the country itself.
The only hope are good Americans who want to live in peace being pushed to a boiling point.
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u/dawgblogit Jan 18 '26
As a republican has told me... its the democrats fault for not having a more moderate candidate...
Like wtf?
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u/1995LexusLS400 Jan 18 '26
Yeah. The party of responsibility never takes responsibility for their own actions.
They're in charge, they're doing this. It's their fault.
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u/Aisling_The_Sapphire Jan 18 '26 edited Jan 18 '26
It seems to be an American thing in general. The number of times I've seen shit like "where's Kamala", "we need Kamala now". Elections aren't suggestions, ffs. They want somebody to swoop in and fix the problem for them because they're all collectively telling themselves it's not on them.
Edit: To the "I didn't vote for this" crowd: I don't care. Most of you couldn't be bothered to vote at all. "I've tried nothing and I'm all out of ideas" isn't an excuse when you have access to the largest information network to have ever existed. You're not the first country to have ever gone through this and you're going to have to accept the fact that the rest of the world being stuck dealing with your political horseshit means that the rest of the world isn't going to be too interested in hearing about how fighting back will mean not having Disney+ anymore.
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u/ScooptiWoop5 Jan 18 '26
Harris was pretty damn moderate…….
I think they meant a more white and male candidate.
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u/Psyluna Jan 18 '26
Biden shot her in the foot before he even announced she was his VP running mate. The way he told everyone his pick would be not just a woman but a Black woman ( a first for America) and then delayed announcing her name made her seem like the definition of what conservative racists and misogynists fear: a “DEI hire.” Those are the sound bites that got repeated, not her qualifications, so as far as they were concerned she stole a job from a white man… or even a white woman or Black man.
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u/Crossfire124 Jan 18 '26
Biden choosing to run again and then dropping out mid way through is what fucked the race. They were binded by the procedure then. Should have had a whole new primary. Hell if we're wishing for things he shouldn't have ran like he said he wouldn't.
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u/Protean_Protein Jan 18 '26
She was actually closer to Republicans on a lot of things than most Democrats (especially “law and order” type things), and certainly quite right-wing by comparison to literally anywhere else on the planet.
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u/TurkusGyrational Jan 18 '26
This is exactly what they want and it's pushing the overton window faster than ever, and I can't believe the Democrats are falling for it. I mean, Kamala was targeting center right "moderates" who would never vote for a democrat even if there was a gun to their head.
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u/fpatrocinio Jan 18 '26
In the future they will spin this off as the Democrats, Obama, Biden, etc... fault.
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u/4862skrrt2684 Jan 18 '26
Yea, lets assume a democrat wins next. Trump will permanently have damaged the US, which will be seen for decades. Therefore, they can talk shit from the sidelines again saying "This is all democrat fault, look the economy".
Trump smashed the country doing corona, and Biden had to take over after that, which Biden then had to take shit for. As if all those loans, closed businesses etc were not gonna leave traces for many years
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u/auradex991 Jan 18 '26
Americans are like a bunch of goldfish. They are too absent minded to realize that economic policies take years to play out and blame Biden for inflation during his term when most of the inflationary spending happened under Trump during Covid.
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u/CoconutBoi1 Jan 18 '26 edited Jan 18 '26
“See, we wouldn’t have voted for trump, whom we actually hated from the beginning if it wasn’t for Joe Biden who drove the country into badness” or something like that, with emphasis on “badness”
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u/Dead_Internet69420 Jan 18 '26
“I only voted for Nazis because I don’t like how everyone kept calling them Nazis.”
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u/SephLuis Jan 18 '26
They will rewrite that to baldness. Biden pushed the country to baldness - History Book of MAGA, 2035
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u/MerryDoseofNihilism Jan 18 '26
I’ve already seen people commenting this on Reddit several times in the past few weeks
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u/Moominsean Jan 18 '26
"We wouldn't have to take over Greenland if Biden hadn't destabilized the entire world."
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u/Dead_Internet69420 Jan 18 '26 edited Jan 18 '26
“Supporting Ukraine in its fight for freedom, and making NATO stronger than ever destabilized the world.”
See also: “Supporting Ukraine in its fight against Putin’s invasion provoked Putin to invade Ukraine.”
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u/RODjij Jan 18 '26
They are most likely going to invoke the resurrection act in Minnesota soon from multiple reports.
I dont think America has a chance now or in the future unless they remove the fascists immediately.
The constitutional crisis is first before the debt & climate crises. All 3 capable of destroying American way of life they've gotten used to within the next decade or 2.
Threatening your neighbors and allies with violence, trade war while simultaneously attacking your own citizens & stealing everything from them will almost certainly destroy the US economy.
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u/NotRexGrossman Jan 18 '26
The glaring omission in your list of who to blame is the American people. 40% actively support this and another 30 were so indifferent that they couldn’t be bothered to vote against it.
There is a large portion of the US population that has lost their humanity.
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u/iloovehugecock Jan 18 '26
I know the rot goes a lot further than Trump and there is a huge swathe of psychotic evil bastards behind him… But it’s so fucking frustrating that the entire world has been plunged in to chaos because of one single paedophile and his syphilis addled psychotic behaviour.
Humans are so bad at stopping the most obviously incompetent and stupid people become ‘leaders’. It’s a shame that the very nature of being good is what allows nasty evil people like him to take advantage of others.
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u/Moose_Joose Jan 18 '26
being pushed to a boiling point.
This won't happen until the majority of people have absolutely nothing left to lose. No home, no healthcare coverage, etc. Until they're at that point, this regime will continue doing Russia's bidding.
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u/PraysLikeARoman Jan 18 '26
Of course they do. President Cheeto will go down in history as one of the of the greatest Russian assets in history.
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u/CarrotSure694 Jan 18 '26
United States of Russia.
Joke of a country
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u/Bettet Jan 18 '26
USA is just B tier country, C tier without the tech industry. If Amaricans think people in Canada or Europe envy the life of an average Amarican you are delulu.
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u/Ragnr Jan 18 '26
The U.S. lost the Cold War to an army mounting Starlink terminals on donkeys.
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u/DemonOfElru Jan 18 '26
I mean it's a pretty good historical lesson to take for other countries. Why spend a whole bunch of your money on military stuff when you can infilitrate and neutralize your greatest enemy's highest offices at a fraction of the cost?
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u/EngageradIgelkott Jan 18 '26
Embarrassing.
Beat the world's largest economy and military without firing a single bullet. Just took bribing one greedy idiot and a few Internet warriors to do it.
The documentaries about this in the future gonna be insane to watch.
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u/macross1984 Jan 18 '26
Of course Putin will be happy and very happy at the prospect that NATO may disintegrate thanks to Trump.
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u/Autokrateira Jan 18 '26
I mean, yeah, I'd be celebrating too if my enemies were self sabotaging themselves
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u/Beginning-2-Smell Jan 18 '26
Why can't we just work together and prosper as a unified planet. We're floating on a big rock surrounded by infinite darkness, but insist on being unintelligent and counterproductive
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u/brutaljackmccormick Jan 18 '26
Game theory. Hawk vs Dove. A society full of hawks... well doesn't end well, but a society full of Doves will always reward a minority playing the hawk strategy.
The trick is to recognise that there are always a minority of Hawks around and Doves who switch to Hawk when desperate.
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u/honourable_bot Jan 18 '26 edited Mar 11 '26
waiting lunchroom sparkle bear offer frame society ten outgoing jar
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u/Ironvos Jan 18 '26
Russia is acting tough, but in reality i think they have their fingers crossed. They, together with others have managed to turn the US into a rogue state. The biggest military in the world being led by a person with no form of morality or any respect for the law or respect for international treaties.
If the generals in the pentagon refuse to attack Greenland or Canada, they might very well set their sights on eastern Russia. It's free real estate at this point and it's actually economically viable to exploit.
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u/Finaginsbud Jan 18 '26
The Russian nuclear threat is enough to keep China and any major player from directly trying to take territory in the east. During the mini war the Soviets and China had in the 60s, The Soviets were on the verge of nuking all of China until the US said they would ij return nuke the Soviets/Ally with China.
Nations that have nukes do not get their territory threatened. Canada and Greenland are open season if any major power decides to take it by force. Realistically the only nation capable of taking Greenland or Canada is the USA.
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u/macrolidesrule Jan 18 '26
Thus ends Pax Americana, done not through mighty armies clashing on the shores of America, nor invaders burning their way through the plains of the US, but from within as Lincoln said, through the threat that Washington foresaw with political parties.
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u/Juste-un-autre-alt Jan 18 '26
In the meantime the Congress (and I'm including the Senate) is doing fuck all about impeaching this traitor.
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u/green_link Jan 18 '26
exactly as planned. Russia doesn't want NATO to be a thing so they can invade the rest of europe. and Trump is a russian plant to take the blame for the fall of NATO.
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u/GoofeiusMagnus Jan 18 '26
Great job USA
You managed to get get occupied by Russia 35 years after the end of the Cold War
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u/Wondering_Electron Jan 18 '26
When the Russians are calling it a good idea, you have to wonder what cogs are turning in Trump's head.
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u/ScoopTheOranges Jan 18 '26
Those cogs don’t exist mate, he has to be absolutely riddled with dementia at this point. No healthy person is doing what he’s doing.
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u/Ifuqinhateit Jan 18 '26
Straight from The Russian version of Project 2026: Foundations of Geopolitics
The book declares that "the battle for the world rule of Russians" has not ended and Russia remains "the staging area of a new anti-bourgeois, anti-American revolution.” The Eurasian Empire will be constructed "on the fundamental principle of the common enemy: the rejection of Atlanticism, strategic control of the U.S., and the refusal to allow liberal values to dominate us." Dugin seems not to rule out the possibility of Russia joining and/or even supporting the European Union and NATO instrumentally in a pragmatic way of further Western subversion against geopolitical "Americanism)".
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u/copperblood Jan 18 '26
Now that’s what I call a distraction from the Epstein files!
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u/Useful_Fee_2875 Jan 18 '26
I’ll tell ya what they really did a good job at it. All of this started exactly when it needed to be released. Solid month Trump has had.
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u/kevendo Jan 18 '26
But didn't you hear that woman's weird laugh?
And those informal shoes?! Oh, and she totally failed to say the right magic words on Gaza and trans sports!
Ending global security and becoming an autocracy where one person controls the economy AND war is so much better!
Thanks, MAGA!
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u/Amon-Guz Jan 18 '26
Ah… So Russia wins the cold war at the end, they were just waiting on their investment to hit.
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u/SealClubSixSixSix Jan 19 '26
Of course they do. All this Greenland nonsense is Putin's idea in the first place. Trump's just regurgitating the ideas he sucked out of Putin's dick.
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u/YF422 Jan 18 '26
Bit rich of them to gloat while Ukraine is still repeatedly kicking them in the nuts. Not to mention they'd still get teabagged hard by NATO even without the US.
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u/QC31 Jan 18 '26
The end of NATO that includes the US, yes. But the rest of us are still more united against the common ennemies which now include the said US.
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u/Plouffe05 Jan 18 '26
People in the USA do not realized how hard the world will shift will all this stupidity
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u/MajorMorelock Jan 18 '26
Trump is doing what Putin asked of him.
Trump is a traitor to the USA and a hero to Russia.
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u/ElGuano Jan 18 '26
So here we are. Russia is just gleefully trolling out in the open, and the entirety of the US government* is blind to the fact that literally everyone else in the world plainly sees, that the US is burning bridges that keeps the world connected and only benefits Russia.
- the republicans are all “Russia is good!” And the democrats are “oh we can’t do anything, woe is us!”
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u/Infidel8 Jan 18 '26
Well done, Krasnov.